my plans are to get a n2o kit untill i can get the greddy turbo kit..im gonna shoot 75hp...will the act heavy duty/street disk/ fidanza flywheel be cool? I need a daily driver and i want it to hold the power..any suggestions welcome..thanks
Don't change your flywheel. People have run into problems with that and every Honda performance shop will tell you to stick with the stock flywheel and for your application get the ClutchMasters Stage 4 clutch. It will have just enough grip without being too hard on you.
Originally posted by ludefoshizzle will the act heavy duty/street disk
You shouldn't have any problems with this combo. This clutch combo has a torque capacity of around 275 or so, and retails for around $350. It's a solid clutch. Leave the flywheel.
Originally posted by TimeRacer The Clutchmasters stage 3 will be plenty for that setup. Don't get the 4, or you'll regret it for daily driving.
Yes I agree. Another good option would be an ACT Extreme pressure plate with street disc or ACT Heavy duty plate with a 6 puck disc. The Extreme plate will suck in traffic though, if that is a concern.
Yes I agree. Another good option would be an ACT Extreme pressure plate with street disc or ACT Heavy duty plate with a 6 puck disc. The Extreme plate will suck in traffic though, if that is a concern.
It'll more than suck, you'll hardly be able to drive it. For most applications, including a 75 shot, the Heavy Duty PP/Street disk is fine.
lightened flywheel is good for forced induction because it decreases the rotational inertia the crank has to overcome...if u are getting the Greddy turbo, i would get it...since u are going to use N20, the lightened flywheel will effect performance when u are off the bottle but helps alot when on it
If this is for drag only, then a lightened flywheel will probally hurt your times. This is because the launch is where your times will come from, and with the heavier weight flywheel you can slip the clutch more w/o the RPM's dropping and get a much more consistant start. This makes up for any gains that you get down the track from the lighter weight of the flywheel.
Originally posted by TimeRacer The Clutchmasters stage 3 will be plenty for that setup. Don't get the 4, or you'll regret it for daily driving.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't stage 1-4 have the same pressure plate, therefore same driveability? I'm getting a stage 4 for an eventual jrsc setup.
Also, I've driven a '97 gs-r with a stage 4 and I found it to be very driveable. It wasn't too sensitive and surprisingly easy to engage (not too stiff). Mind you, I'm a tiny little girl, so if I can handle it, I'm sure you big strong guys can!
TimeRacer- do you have/had a stage 3? What's your experience with both clutches?
Ludecrs: Stage 3 is sitting in a box in my room anxiously awaiting me to do a 7000 rpm drop on my stock clutch so it can show me how it's done
ludefoshizzle: Like I said, it'll be harder to launch since when your clutch grabs your RPMs will not hold as well as right now. Though your actual performance once you get traction will be better, but not by much. It's a toss up, if you think you can launch the car really well right now I'd stick with the stock flywheel. If you think you think you can launch modulating the gas pedal, and clutch pedal at the same time (hard to explain, but just think of your RPMs dropping much faster than they do right now when the clutch slides onto the surface so you have to give that much more gas to keep the RPMs up) then go for it. I think the Prelude is hard enough to launch as is and the lightened flywheel will just make it harder. Though this isn't from a drag racer, I'm more of an autocrosser and I have the flywheel to match my clutch that'll go in eventually.
Originally posted by TimeRacer Ludecrs: Stage 3 is sitting in a box in my room anxiously awaiting me to do a 7000 rpm drop on my stock clutch so it can show me how it's done
Timeracer- I'm not taking anything from you, but why would you advise against a stage 4 over a stage 3 when yours hasn't even been installed? For instance, I have a Fidanza flywheel here waiting for install, but I wouldn't dare post anything on this thread about it because I, as of yet, don't have any first hand experience.
Have you driven a car with a stage 3 and a stage 4 clutch? How do both feel? Where are you getting your opinions from? Please clarify. I don't want to sound critical, but I'm just trying to make an informed decision about the two clutches for a future purchase and I want substantiated advice and opinions.
I've driven both, the stage 3 is the highest I would go for a street car. In reailty a stage 2 would be able to handle N02 but if ever want to put more in the stage 3 should be able to handle it. But essentially you can look at the specs of the stage 4 and realize that it's NOT for the street. It's not a full face disk, and they literally tell you that it gives you a very hard to modulate pedal due to the high pressure. I'd ONLY drive the stage 4 if I was track racing, maybe I'm just a wuss
In any case, why would you want a stage 4? Where is this 450 hp engine that you would need to justify getting the stage 4? The car I drove with the stage 4 was a 10-11 second MR2 and that was a drag only car.
I have my ACT street disc clutch and a clutchmasters aluminum 8.5 lb fly. The thing you want to stay away from that gives problems with starter teeth chewing is a chromly flywheel, its so hard that it chews starter teeth. Also, the revs do rise and fall faster, however, it is nothing that you will not be able to control. When I got it, I thought it would rise and fall really fast, but it was a rather small adjustment. As far as dragging, I wouldnt know since the only launching I do is for real racing and I can keep it controled very well.
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