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Old 02-24-2010, 03:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Flashing CEL

ive switched my JDM ECU with the US ECU. drove around a little and now i have a Flashing CEL. anybody knows why it has a Flashing CEL?
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That would be caused by an active misfire...don't drive it like that.
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6 codes. Random misfires all 4 cylinders. anybody knows whats up with the random misfires?

Nothing has been swapped out from the JDM motor and running US ECU
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What are the other codes?
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yea, i have the same thing with my car now. I store my prelude every winter and i had an idle issue when i stored it for the winter. it was bouncing up and down from 1600 down to 800. then it would drive fine. then my truck broke down the other day and i was gonna get my car ready to drive it and now i have a spit and sputter alogn witht he bouncing idle and also with a flashing engine light. any help with this would be great. I have a 2000 prelude sh with a JR supercharger
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was the jdm ecu obd1?

put the jdm ecu back in and see if the problem goes away.

Some jdm motors are obd1

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check spark plugs\wire and the dizzy

and does ur idle bounce when the car is warm?
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Revs bouncing up and down is almost always a vacuum issue. I had random misfires in all four cylinders when the gasket between the Intake manifold and head had a hole in it. It could also be the IACV, but that's eay to check. Turn the car off, unplug the IACV and then start the car back up. Does it still idle like poop?
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i unplugged the IACV and then started it back up. I still have the engine light on which i assume is from the IACV not plugged in, but its not flashing, but my rpms still bounce a little. they just do short quick bounces maybe from 800 to 1000. Also, does anyone know why when i turn the heater on it blows straight cold air. No warm air comes out. My car warms up as normal. I have the warm air all the way over. I was having a problem with the temperature control on the dash sticking. it wouldnt stay all the way over on the heat side. if i slid it all the way to the right for heat it would slide back towards the cold side about 1/4 of the way to the left. thanks guys
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@veevay
was the jdm ecu obd1?

put the jdm ecu back in and see if the problem goes away.

Some jdm motors are obd1

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nice thread jack.

check spark plugs\wire and the dizzy

and does ur idle bounce when the car is warm?
i dont know if the JDM ecu is obd1. but with the jdm ecu theres no CEL. i also having the bouncing idle. going to clean my iacv 2marrow to hope it fixes it.

Codes im getting are
P0300
P0301
P0302
P0303
P0304
Random Misfire

P1399 - still have no clue about this code. read around that this code doesnt really mean much? not sure though
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i unplugged the IACV and then started it back up. I still have the engine light on which i assume is from the IACV not plugged in, but its not flashing, but my rpms still bounce a little. they just do short quick bounces maybe from 800 to 1000. Also, does anyone know why when i turn the heater on it blows straight cold air. No warm air comes out. My car warms up as normal. I have the warm air all the way over. I was having a problem with the temperature control on the dash sticking. it wouldnt stay all the way over on the heat side. if i slid it all the way to the right for heat it would slide back towards the cold side about 1/4 of the way to the left. thanks guys
Ok thats the same thing mine would do. If the revs still bounce then it is most likely NOT a problem with your IACV. Next step is check your coolant system for air bubbles. There's a little bleeder valve on top of the thermostat housing near the EGR valve. Give it a little turn see if anything comes out. You SHOULD get a healthy trickle of antifreeze. IF you get a trickle some bubbles, a trickle some more bubbles you have air trapped in your coolant lines. That WILL cause a bad idle. If you get a good stream of coolant. Go to a parts store, and buy a can of brake cleaner. Start giving it a little squirt here and there around vacuum lines while the engine is running. pay close attention to the intake manifold. Try to give a little spray to every bit of gasket seam you find at the intake manifold. It will start running funny when you find a vacuum leak.

What my car would do.
I would reset the CEL (disconnect ground). Start the car it would run for a while, and usually idle normal if not a little high when cold, until i touched the gas peddle. Then the idle would bounce between 1600 and 800 or there abouts. VROOO-oooom VROOO-oooom, it would drive normal but the idle woul dbounce at lights and stuff. Eventually the CEl would turn on and it would idle like this vrum-vrum-vrum-vrum. It would sit at around 800 and just bounce up and down between 800 and 900-1000. It would run like crap, No vtec, and it would rev down realy fast (8 lb flywheel).
This is the problem:
The Slow reving to 1600 then back down to 800 and back up to 1600 is the ECu compensating for the extra AIR caused by a vacuum leak. It is literally saying in it's little ECU brain "Lean... add gas... too rich... cut fuel... Lean...add gas... too rich...cut fuel." Eventually it goes into limp mode, it stops controlling the idle air control valve (so not enough air getting to engine with TB butterfly closed) and starts idling like crap. With no IACV there's nothing giving it air when you let off the gas between shifts. So the butterfly closes, there's not enough air getting by so the RPM's plummet.

Mine was a dime sized hole in the gasket between the intake manifold and the head right above the port to Cylinder 4. This problem drove me nuts for months until i figured it out.

Here's a video of how it idles with NO cel:
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disconnect the battery put the jdm ecu in and see if the problems are still there.

also what model ecu are the 2?
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disconnect the battery put the jdm ecu in and see if the problems are still there.

also what model ecu are the 2?
with the JDM ECU its fine. no CEL or anything. They Both are P5M ecus
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could it be possible that it is the ECU? as i said before. The ECU that came with the JDM motor doesn't throw a CEL.
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anybody have anything? still have no clue why this is happening
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dont use the ecu that the cel show up on, use the other one....
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