Hi all, I have noticed that a lot of people swapping in the H22 to the 4th Gen or Civic or something... but has anyone done an engine swap to the 5th gen? While I myself am not looking to do it, this is more out of curiosity.. if you can do an engine swap, what can you put in the 5th gen? Would a V6 fit?
My question would be why would you want to? I think the H22A has the most potential of any of the obtainable Honda engines. Its not already maxed out like the B18C (That's the code for the ITR right?) and I think it can make more power than the V6 Accord engine. That's why the Accord Euro R's have the H22A in them instead of a tuned V6 right? What do I know?
Maybe not an accord V6 motor...but how about an NSX motor. That could be quite interesting! Plus the engine would already be running horizontally from the fact that nsx's are rear wheel drive, rear engine. Could be kinda cool...would definitely turn some heads.
Originally posted by ScottMan My question would be why would you want to? I think the H22A has the most potential of any of the obtainable Honda engines. Its not already maxed out like the B18C (That's the code for the ITR right?) and I think it can make more power than the V6 Accord engine. That's why the Accord Euro R's have the H22A in them instead of a tuned V6 right? What do I know?
actually I would say the b16 has the most potential for a reasonable amount of money. For people without VERY deep pockets, the H22a is the least responsive of the three (h22, b18, b16) to performance modifications...
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Originally posted by FFMlude Maybe not an accord V6 motor...but how about an NSX motor. That could be quite interesting! Plus the engine would already be running horizontally from the fact that nsx's are rear wheel drive, rear engine. Could be kinda cool...would definitely turn some heads.
That would be pretty cool, but wouldn't you have to essentially gut out your car since the NSX is a mid-engine car?
my highschool shop teacher shoehorned one into a early 80's triumph tweaked it out and fed it the bottle... This was in 95... and he's 95... pretty cool if you ask me
btw, not that I was serious but could you even fit a 350 into our bay?
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Originally posted by x97tmp How about a 350 small block
my highschool shop teacher shoehorned one into a early 80's triumph tweaked it out and fed it the bottle... This was in 95... and he's 95... pretty cool if you ask me
btw, not that I was serious but could you even fit a 350 into our bay?
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I didn't want to sound Anti-Honda or anything (just an FYI, I love my prelude.. sometimes my wife thinks I love it more than her! ) but what about something like the supra engine?
If you really wanted to swap, the b-series don't make a lot of sense. True, they've got more aftermarket & are more readily available, but the fact that they're smaller than what we've already got just goes against the whole principle of the thing. Perhaps if you were going for an extreme forced induction application (at like 24 psi or something), the B16 might make sense - with a more ideal rod/stroke ratio. When you're boosting that much, I don't think displacement is nearly as important as reliability.
A V6 from the the Accord would probably be the easiest - since Accords also come with the F22, which is dimensionally similar to the H22. Even still, it'd be a lot of work, with a lot of custom fabricating. But maybe the mounts used in the Accord would swap over to the Prelude. I'm not aware of anyone who's tried it before. Of course, they're not available with a manual transmission, which doesn't make them a very attractive option in my book.
The most viable "super-swap" might be the J32 V6 in the CL-S. Again, who knows if it'd fit, but at least it comes with a stickshift. I think I read somewhere that it was actually a more compact engine that the Accord V6, so who knows. But it is designed to be mounted transversely, and has a crapload of potential, with a fair amount of aftermarket support. Of course, it's not going to be cheap. The chances of finding a used one are practically zero.
But anything bigger than the H22 is going to make weight distribution worse than it already is. Although I also remember some sort of press release describing how lightweight the J series V6's were compared to other engines. They could be no heavier than the H22.
I really wish there was a reliable resource for finding engine weights.
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Originally posted by LVSBB6 I have access in getting a used Euro-R engine or Type S engine from HK, which engine has a higher output in hp &/or torque?
Thanks
same outputs, correct me if i'm wrong.
address post about h22a being most potential?? most probably all who know's honda know's that the gs-r/itr has more potential, heck mostly all b-series has good numbers for aftermarket parts. its just h22 has a "bigger" start 195hp/158tq
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B18C is the GSR engine code.
Plus the engine would already be running horizontally from the fact that nsx's are rear wheel drive, rear engine. Could be kinda cool...would definitely turn some heads.
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