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02-16-2002, 10:22 PM

pretty nice ... how much?

SK Honda 7 · 02-17-2002, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by Greek Lude

Actually dude those rims are gonna rub like a mofo if you drop. My friend has 17x7 with a 40 offset and rubbed bad, He ended up shaving the fenders. With a 17x7 and 40 offset the clearance from stut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 9mm MORE
The outside edge of the wheel will EXTEND an extra 21mm. This is less than your # and he didn't clear with a 1.5 drop. So I wouldn't drop if I were you.

so what is the least OFFSET should be put on a prelude. Cause I just fell in Love with TSW REVOs in white....holly crap do they look good. Th eonly problem they come with a 40 offset on a 17 x 7 that means no good right?

Greek Lude · 02-17-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by SK Honda 7

that means no good right?

right.

DYI01 · 02-17-2002, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Greek Lude

Actually dude those rims are gonna rub like a mofo if you drop. My friend has 17x7 with a 40 offset and rubbed bad, He ended up shaving the fenders. With a 17x7 and 40 offset the clearance from stut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 9mm MORE
The outside edge of the wheel will EXTEND an extra 21mm. This is less than your # and he didn't clear with a 1.5 drop. So I wouldn't drop if I were you.

if you read the sticker on the wheel...they have a +48 offset

Greek Lude · 02-17-2002, 07:40 PM

What does that mean???? I don't care if it has a +1000 offset. Look at the size of those rims. They are 8 inch width. Huge. Unless he sticks really low profile tirea and not more than 205 I doubt he will clear with a 1.5 drop. And in return his rims will be so exposed it won't be funny. Forget the fact his speedo would be crazy off cauze he would get tires to accomodate a drop. A +48 might work for a 7 or a 7.5 rim but not for an 8 inch rim. He would need a 60+ to clear. But you know what. You do the math. Here are the links.

http://www.mindspring.com/~toy4two/offset.html

http://www.dakota-truck.net/TIRECALC/tirecalc.html

Obsidian7 · 02-17-2002, 09:15 PM

I think it will not rub.. as long as his tires are the right size.. think about this:

I currently have 215/40 tires on 17" wheels with a +47mm offset.. no rubbing whatsoever.

215mm / 25.4 = 8.46" ..that's more than the 8" width of the SSR wheels.

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Another way to look at it...
- Stock tires and wheels: 205 with 55mm offset
- My current setup: 215 with a 47mm offset
The new setup is 10mm wider than the original.. there will be 3mm more room inboard (strut side) and 13mm more will be needed on the fender side.

So, as long as he picks the proper tire size, everything should be cool... but it would be nice to run 225s

Greek Lude · 02-17-2002, 09:25 PM

Dude what is your rim width. If you have a 7 or even 7.5 obviously you will make it with that offset. Don't compare 215 and 205 tires. That's only 1cm (centemeter) difference. Now a 7 with a 8 inch rim is a huge diference. To each his own. Everyone is welcome to have an opinion. I just don't wan't the poor guy spending cash on a suspension setup to find out that even shaving won't solve his problems. Even if he completely shaves the fender that will really weaken his fender to the point if someone leans on it it will bend.

Greek Lude · 02-17-2002, 09:27 PM

Also he has already tires on those beasts. Probably 225's. If he goes smaller he will be running on the rims and the profile even if it's a 60 will be something like a 40 with the rim edge sticking out alot.

Obsidian7 · 02-17-2002, 09:39 PM

The point is... the tires are centered on the wheel and the tires are wider than the wheel.

How a 215 width tire fits isn't really that different between a 7" or 8" wide wheel... because the tire is still the same width.

Greek Lude · 02-17-2002, 09:49 PM

Dude a 48 is not the same thing on a 7 inch as it is on an 8 inch. Click on the links and see the results. For the same offset try one with a 7 inch rim and one with a 8 inch rim. See the differences. And use same offset.

Obsidian7 · 02-17-2002, 09:58 PM

Offset is *always* measured from the center of the wheel.

Ignoring the tire.. if you had a 7" wide wheel and an 8" wide wheel with the exact same offsets.. the 8" wheel would need an extra 1/2" on each side. BUT... put a 215 tire on both wheels and watch them fit almost *exactly* the same.

Notice how "wheel width" is ignored in this chart? As long as the tires are wider than the wheel and fit properly.... who cares?

Greek Lude · 02-17-2002, 10:09 PM

BUT that's the point here. getting a tire that will maintane stock diameter. Not one that was fiited on to avoid rubbing. The results on performance would be altered.

Obsidian7 · 02-17-2002, 10:23 PM

215/40-17 is what most people with 17s on a Prelude will use. A 1.2% change in rolling diameter is negligible.

225/40-17 would be a near perfect match, but nothing can be found in that size (as per tirerack.com).

205/45 are slightly taller than stock, but who wants a skinnier tire?

DYI01 · 02-17-2002, 11:28 PM

i am running a 16 x 7.5 in wheel with 205/50/16's. The wheels have a +43 offset and my car is slammed. I have no rubbing problems. I doubt that a 17 x 8 with a +48 offset will rub while being lowered. I think this guy on HP.com has 17 x 8 SSR type-C and is slammed on TEIN HA's and has no running problems at all.

nighttime · 02-18-2002, 08:20 PM

Nighttime surveys the situation and thinks: "I leave for two days, and the place falls apart!"

Well, I this thread got interesting.

Lets start at the top...

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Originally posted by Greek Lude
Also he has already tires on those beasts. Probably 225's. If he goes smaller he will be running on the rims and the profile even if it's a 60 will be something like a 40 with the rim edge sticking out alot.

Actually, they are 215/40-17. Yes, a 225/40-17 is the perfect size, but if what I am told is correct, only one company makes a tire in this size. I like my tire choices in 215/40-17 better, so I can live with the size difference. Yes, the rim edge sticks out, but its not what I would consider "a lot". I did the calculations to make sure that the tire width is safe to the width of the rim, and it is. Lets put it this way. If it was unsafe, I wouldnt have autocrossed on them for two days in a row. The tires are still on the rim, although they are going to last a few hundred miles less.

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Forget the fact his speedo would be crazy off cauze he would get tires to accomodate a drop.

Yes, the speedometer is off by 1.2%, meaning that Im going 59.3 MPH, instead of 60MPH, but I can live with that. Even though Im a perfectionist.

Plus, if the mileage on the car isnt the true mileage, Im planning on being the only owner of the car so Im the one who knows about it.

The big question: Will it rub. Well, I dont think it will, but either way, we're going to find out this weekend. If it does, Im either going to get coilovers, or have the fenders rolled in the rear, because Im keeping the wheels!

Thanks for all the comments. I like the wheels too. Pretty much all my car nut friends (both men and women) love them. I know I made the right choice.

Greek Lude · 02-18-2002, 08:29 PM

Best of luck. Hope you don't rub. What you dropping with?

nighttime · 02-18-2002, 10:03 PM

H&R Sports. Its supposed to be a 1.4 in drop, but if experience has taught me anything, it will be more like 1.6 after all is said and done.

nighttime · 02-26-2002, 07:00 PM

Just an update. I lowered it a few days ago, and driven it quite a bit since then, and no rubbing so far. Looks quite good as well.

Jacques · 02-26-2002, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by nighttime
Just an update. I lowered it a few days ago, and driven it quite a bit since then, and no rubbing so far. Looks quite good as well.

I think some new lowered pics are in order, right?

nighttime · 02-26-2002, 07:51 PM

Sure, as soon as they are developed.