Cold Air INTAKE - Honda Prelude Forum

2000goes150 · 10-07-2003, 05:19 PM

i have a stock 2000 prelude SH and i finally got money, first thing i am tring to do is intake and i am probally gonna go with a mugen exaust, any suggestions on a cold air intake

CTPRELUDE · 10-07-2003, 05:20 PM

Do a search and you will find TONS of info on intakes. A LOT Of people use AEM though...

Enhanced · 10-07-2003, 05:30 PM

What do you want in the long run? The answer to this question will bring different answers.

I would go with AEM SRI. Build a cold air box and make a short ram system. Searching will give you a lot of info

2000goes150 · 10-07-2003, 05:38 PM

in the long run i want a nice sound when i hit the gas in neutral and proformance is a must, more power

2000goes150 · 10-07-2003, 05:39 PM

Build a cold air box and make a short ram system.

...How?

Auto|MaG · 10-07-2003, 05:57 PM

isnt the V2 out as of this monday? Swear I read that somewhere.
If it is, someone needs to post a review ASAP!

Jon Like Wh0a · 10-07-2003, 06:01 PM

get an aem......carb legal too

get cold air if you want more high end torque...get the short ram if you want more lower end..........if there are a lot of water hazards in your area, you might want to watch out with the cold air...

2000goes150 · 10-07-2003, 06:16 PM

how much water does a cold air need to f' it up?

Enhanced · 10-07-2003, 06:18 PM

SEARCH

I hated it when people told me to do that when I first joined but it does help. I will start you off with the link.

http://www.preludeonline.com/search....der=descending

Powerwise, intakes don't give you a lot at all. What I meant by what you want inthe future, NA or FI.

2000goes150 · 10-07-2003, 06:34 PM

i was just looking at the aem V2, i kinda wanted something that was made for a 97-01type SH rather than one that is just for a 97-01 prelude, Naturally Aspirated means no turbo or supercharger right? i am gonna keep it NA

NoRice4U · 10-07-2003, 06:40 PM

AEM cold air

Enhanced · 10-07-2003, 06:50 PM

yes NA means no super or turbo. For the most power out of a intake I would get AEM SEI and make a cold air box and make a ram air system so you have cold air with a short ram intake. Best of both worlds.

JaXx4k · 10-07-2003, 06:52 PM

imstallin CAI do i need to cut any part of them body ?? or i just remove the stock box n it fits rite in??

Enhanced · 10-07-2003, 07:11 PM

You will probably 99.9% sure you will have to cut the hole bigger.

J_V_K · 10-07-2003, 08:45 PM

Yah you will need to cut the hole a little bigger

99BlackVTEC · 10-07-2003, 09:06 PM

AEM CAI w/ bypass valve or Injen Race Division CAI

axion68 · 10-07-2003, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2000goes150
i was just looking at the aem V2, i kinda wanted something that was made for a 97-01type SH rather than one that is just for a 97-01 prelude, Naturally Aspirated means no turbo or supercharger right? i am gonna keep it NA

the base and SH share the same motor chasis, the SH just has ATTS. Their intakes are interchangable, so if it fits a base then it will fit an SH

sharkcohen · 10-07-2003, 10:05 PM

My recommendation:

inexpensive alternative to the AEM brand CAI

Pure Lude · 10-07-2003, 10:28 PM

join the V2 groupbuy!

Vapor · 10-08-2003, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Jon Like Wh0a
get an aem......carb legal too

get cold air if you want more high end torque...get the short ram if you want more lower end..........if there are a lot of water hazards in your area, you might want to watch out with the cold air...

I really don't know where people get the idea that CAI's give better high end then a short ram. it's just not true. a short ram that's isolated from heat will give better top end.

japnoyboi · 10-08-2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Pure Lude
join the V2 groupbuy!

i'd join if i were sure they'd fit the SS and not only the manual ludes..

ZMonkey11 · 10-08-2003, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Vapor

I really don't know where people get the idea that CAI's give better high end then a short ram. it's just not true. a short ram that's isolated from heat will give better top end.

it is true because basically all short rams are NOT isolated from heat. It is separated by the battery, but that is not enough to keep from all of the underhood temperatures. If u were to build a box around the filter, then it would be isolated, but as is, a CAI will give u better top end.

Daemione · 10-08-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by ZMonkey11
it is true because basically all short rams are NOT isolated from heat. It is separated by the battery, but that is not enough to keep from all of the underhood temperatures. If u were to build a box around the filter, then it would be isolated, but as is, a CAI will give u better top end.

Why would the effect of heat soak be worse at lower rpms?

If anything, I would say that the heat situation with a short ram would improve at higher rpms - it's pulling air faster, and the car's more likely to be moving faster.

Vapor · 10-08-2003, 12:41 PM

He's saying its still pulling hot air.

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If u were to build a box around the filter, then it would be isolated, but as is, a CAI will give u better top end.

Uhh, what did I say?

Quote:

a short ram that's isolated from heat will give better top end.

Andy, worst argument ever.

Enhanced · 10-08-2003, 02:16 PM

It is obvious that a CAI will get colder air the na SRI but if you build a heat shield or buy one and make a short ram system then you get the better gains from the SRI with the cool air that is better for an engine.

PretecSH · 10-08-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by 99BlackVTEC
AEM CAI w/ bypass valve or Injen Race Division CAI

bypass is a waste of HP if you go cai. you dont really need it. SRI w/ box around it

Enhanced · 10-08-2003, 05:47 PM

Of you do get CAI (not my first choice) I would def. not get the bypass valve. First it takes HP away and it also only works when filter is totally under water.

Topic7 · 10-08-2003, 05:54 PM

so what is the ideal setup for those of us who want an intake?

1) get a cold air?
2) get a ram air?
3) get a ram air with cold air box....?

i duno what im talking about.

GroverzVTEC · 10-08-2003, 06:50 PM

If you live in Florida, or a place with a lot of rain I would get a short ram to avoid the "gliding through puddles with shaking hands for fear of hydrolock" feeling I get when it rains hard here.

We are talking about minimal gains anyways, and a probably loss of some low-end torque. If I had to do it again, I'd get a Type-S intake and call it a day.

Drew

Enhanced · 10-08-2003, 07:53 PM

Topic7, the best way to figure out what you are talking about is to search the crap out of PO. There a lot of information on thsi site that you won't find in other forums.

As for waht setup, it is realy up to you because the differences in HP between intakes is so small.

YOu can get type-s which is good or go with a SR with cold box. CAI is bascially the same as SR with box but not as good lowend so why not jsut get SR.

The best thing to do is SEARCH

PretecSH · 10-08-2003, 08:30 PM

also the price of SRI is less......

nbn22385 · 10-08-2003, 09:21 PM

i spent $30 on ebay and got a 1 piece cold air intake that looks EXACTLY like aem and it fits flawlessly!! check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2434596396

JaXx4k · 10-09-2003, 01:56 AM

i just installled mine today with AN AEM CAI....

i dont lik itl.. the car rawz at 4k+ but 1k-3900 suxx

i feel i lost mad low end...=(

not worth $ 170

my ram air was better....

just my o2 tho.. ( was it 2 cent..) hahahha is mad late now...

Vapor · 10-09-2003, 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by JaXx4k
just my o2 tho..

hahaha. Just your oxygen? wtf?

DEFCONShupaLude · 10-09-2003, 10:44 AM

i tihnk he meant 2 cents?

monk3y · 10-09-2003, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaXx4k
i just installled mine today with AN AEM CAI....

i dont lik itl.. the car rawz at 4k+ but 1k-3900 suxx

i feel i lost mad low end...=(

not worth $ 170

my ram air was better....

just my o2 tho..

if you're installing a CAI for the sound, i think you're better off getting some loud ass exhaust and not worrying about it. besides, my CAI is loud all the way up until about 5000 rpm then gets quieter. i'm guessing it has to do with the intake manifold primary/secondary runners.

did you reset your ECU after the install? yeah, if you're running obd-II it'll figure itself out, but it'll take some time to readjust everything. resetting the ECU and driving the hell out of it for 2 or 3 days should make everything right as rain.

JaXx4k · 10-09-2003, 12:07 PM

i took off the battery when i did the install... so shouldnt that reset the ECU???

Daemione · 10-09-2003, 12:43 PM

Enhanced · 10-09-2003, 01:17 PM

Yeah that should, do it again and see what happens

natcc99 · 10-09-2003, 01:35 PM

what is this V2 that people are talking about.
is it a new intake from AEM?
what are the changes made to it?

there is a lot of talk about this short ram with box installation.
it's quite interesting.
has anyone done this?
pic?

also, those with short rams....did you take your resonator box out? i'm assuming you did considering it's not connected to anything now, but thought I asked anyways.

H22 PRIDE · 10-09-2003, 02:14 PM

i installed a bypass on mine.and found what lookt like oil in my intake pipe.........is this normal????????

JaXx4k · 10-09-2003, 04:39 PM

i think imma go back to short ram... is feels better at low end..

I DONT LIKE AEM CAI.. wasted $170... DAM...

Topic7 · 10-09-2003, 04:46 PM

so if you wanted the best possible gains at both low end and high end, what is the IDEAL setup when speaking of intakes?

Enhanced · 10-09-2003, 04:54 PM

The best intake for low end is SRI. The only bad thing about this intake is that it takes in teh hot air from the engien bay. To eliminate this problem you can build a cold air box and to get even more cold air yo ucan make a short ram system.

look at this thread for pics Cold Air Box finished!

please search, it took me 30 seconds to find this.

Toretto · 10-09-2003, 04:57 PM

I used to have a CAI, and then switched to a short-ram intake. The CAI had a little better top end, but not much. I run nitrous though, so who cares about 2-4 more hp. The one think I hated about the CAI is that its a pain to get to the filter, and the filter gets dirty fast. If your gonnado just bolt ons, adn do plan to race, go with a CAI. If your gonna run any kind of FI, go with a short-ram. If your strickly NA, that extra 2-4hp will come in handy if your trying to break the 180whp mark without cracking open the engine.

Enhanced · 10-09-2003, 05:24 PM

If anyone that has been asking about intakes are thinking about getting turbo, no need to get intake. Jsut incase someone didn't know.

NotoriouSH · 10-09-2003, 05:34 PM

I also made a cold air box over a short ram intake. The result was a large improvement in torque and sound. It was cheap, but a little difficult if you aren't handy. Here are the pictures:

Imagestation photos (you'll need an account to view them)

azninside · 10-09-2003, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Enhanced
You will probably 99.9% sure you will have to cut the hole bigger.

unless you want to force the intake tube through a small hole an F up the paint etc.....then yeah, you've gotta cut the hole bigger

I'd get an AEM V2 so that you can help us review it an see how it goes

Initial Lude · 10-09-2003, 07:06 PM

such a controversary...

i just wanna C .. what the V2 ..puts out... cuz isnt like semi- CAI, and semi SRI.. becuz it doesnt go down all the way.. ???

i dunno.. i wanna SEE a DYNO... before i spend a crap load of money on something that doesnt give any different numbers from the CAI, and SRI

Enhanced · 10-09-2003, 07:36 PM

Notorious is it louder or softer?