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Old 11-26-2001, 03:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Coilvers/Springs

Ok, im thinking of dropping my 2001 prelude SE, and i dont know whether i should go with coilovers or springs. I dont know much about them, all i know is that with coilovers you can adjust the ride height.
I would really appreciate it if you guys would give me the advantages and disadvantages of springs and coilovers and which brands are the best bang for the buck.
Thanks in advance.

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Old 11-26-2001, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That is a really good question. I'm hoping someone who knows alot about our car can answer this. I'm new, but learning. This site has the best info.
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u can adjust coilovers really easily i am prob going for ground controls with tokika illuminas... lowering springs are just ... lowering springs...
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well i have eibach prokits (1.3"). i am on stock shocks. the car is not bouncy at all, and i love the drop. it does settle, but it looks nice like that. people say that the car is uneven, but to me its perfect.

others popular ones include H&R (1.4"), neuspeed race or sport, eibach sportlines.

what i know and have experienced with coilovers are, they are adjustable (+), but they are bouncy! my friend has some on his accord and its wayyy too bouncy. just for your info. this is just very basic, because i cant remember the other springs measurements off the top of my head, but the other luders should fill you in soon enough
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coilovers should not bounce if you have shocks that are strong enough to dampen the force of the springs. If the spring rate of the coilovers are too high then the car WILL bounce. So just make sure that you have shocks that can handle the springs.
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So if you can have coilovers not be bouncy, then what is the point of getting lowering springs?
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So if you can have coilovers not be bouncy, then what is the point of getting lowering springs?
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it is not THAT much of a diff in $
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I see.
so what's the ball park for a set of coilovers? and for lowering springs?
I was looking on ebay, but i coudlnt find any.
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Coilovers Advantages:
-Adjust height whenever needed
-To me, they ride better as long as they're set right

Disadvantages:
-More expensive

Springs Advantage:
-Cheaper

Disadvantage:
-Stuck at one height and cant adjust it whenever you need to
-A little more of a rough ride depending on what you get.

Thats pretty much all I can tell you.
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Coilovers Advantages:
-Adjust height whenever needed
-To me, they ride better as long as they're set right

Disadvantages:
-More expensive

Springs Advantage:
-Cheaper

Disadvantage:
-Stuck at one height and cant adjust it whenever you need to
-A little more of a rough ride depending on what you get.

Thats pretty much all I can tell you.
great, that's exactly what i need to know, thanks.

few more questions:

-how much should i expect to pay for coilovers, or springs?
-is it necessary that i get shocks as well? if i dont, what happens? if i do, what happens? how much are shocks?
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coilovers are like springs but there adjustable, im pretty sure your still gonna need some shocks too.
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one thing about coilovers too, to properly set the height you should really have the car corner weighted, you can eye-ball it to but it probably won't be as good.

and the GC's have a urethane hat thingy that replaces the stock rubber thingy (it goes between the top of the spring and the top strut assembly. over time the urethane could deteriorate maybe to the point were your car will handle poorly. I remember somebody posting about how they had a special aluminum hat made to replace GC's Urethane one. I just cant remember his SN.
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From My experience.

Springs ride better are softer and have a compressive force pushing the wheel back down to the ground since the spring is compressed all the time. coilovers have a little play/room when a tire is lifted up.....your tire will sit in the air and it may be the drive tire....this happens a lot with my skunk2 coilovers coming off angling out of driveways and shops, malls whatever. I would suggest getting springs. Neuspeed is the best brand hands down and H&R are great as well. Neuspeed sports offer the best ride and best handeling for any spring. neuspeed race are stiffer, will require shocks and may have clearence issues in some area's...AKA speed bumps and depends on what exhaust you have and how low it is...apexi N1 hangs low.

Coilovers handel WORSE in bumpy area's while springs handle better, and coilovers handle better on smooth surfaces.


set ups I had
Neuspeed sports/ stock shocks
skunk2 coilovers/ KYB AGX adj shocks


I am talking about coilover sleeves and NOT true coilovers like tien, or apexi.
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great, that's exactly what i need to know, thanks.

few more questions:

-how much should i expect to pay for coilovers, or springs?
-is it necessary that i get shocks as well? if i dont, what happens? if i do, what happens? how much are shocks?
-Depends on what kind you get. There are full coilovers and coilover sleeves. The full coilover are adjustible struts with springs. Coilover sleeves just go over you stock struts.

-Its not necessary to get new shocks whenever you buy either one. Nothing happens if you keep your stock ones. Still, just depends on what brand shocks you want. Most people suggest getting Koni Yellows. I have no idea how much they are
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-Depends on what kind you get. There are full coilovers and coilover sleeves. The full coilover are adjustible struts with springs. Coilover sleeves just go over you stock struts.

-Its not necessary to get new shocks whenever you buy either one. Nothing happens if you keep your stock ones. Still, just depends on what brand shocks you want. Most people suggest getting Koni Yellows. I have no idea how much they are

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well it looks like coilovers are gonna pretty expensive, and i dont have that much money to spend, so im probably gonna get lowering springs without shocks, i dont wanna spend too much right now. Im looking for something that drops me preferably 2.0"F and 1.8"R.--or somehting along those lines. What can i expect in price range, and what brand should i look for?
and does anyone STRONGLY recommend against not getting shocks? will actually damage the car?
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Nothing will happen to your car in the short run, except maybe not as good handling
However, in the long run you stock shocks will wear out and you will need to get new ones, therefore you will have to pay for labor again to put the shocks in.

From experience, it is better to do it right the first time, if you dont have the money to do it the way you really want it, then save up until you do...........just my opinion...............
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hmm...ok...so how much do you think it will cost me to get shocks and springs approximately? do you think about 350-400 will do?
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