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Old 11-16-2011, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Coilovers vs Lowering Springs

just wondering guys if which one would you prefer to put in my Prelude SH.. i just wanna low it down to 1.5''.. i read some reviews of the two.. and both has problems? so i need your help guys.. thanks LUDERS
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Adjustable > Not adjustable
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Adjustable > Not adjustable
Only if you want to adjust it..
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Either way, you should replace your shocks.

I'm not sure what problems you could've found from coilovers, aside from camber issues if you go overboard.
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Only if you want to adjust it..
Trust me, you'll want to adjust it. There's no such thing as a perfect drop, especially on an SH, where nearly all springs are made for the base model.

But yes, like Indy said, you'll want to replace your shocks with aftermarket units designed for going lower.
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coilovers = great ride
lowering springs = not that great

good coilovers make your whole car to feel nice, basicly lowering springs make it just look better
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^not true

Lowering springs are more for comfort if you are daily driving. They are typically progressive spring rates that are stiffer than stock so they lower CG but with more sporty but with comfort in mind.

Coilover sets are supposed to be sport driving oriented. Although, there are brands out there that are making these cheap but do not perform as they should for sport use (ksport, F&F, Megan...etc etc...). Coilovers are horrible for the street. They are designed with a linear spring rate and should come paired with a shock with supposedly correct damping ratio to control the spring.

Be careful though when you lower your car, you can make the handling worst. Just because you lessened body roll, does not mean your car actually handles better. It is a huge misconception. Please do this correctly with someone that actually know their suspension geometry math. If the person doing the lowering does't know how to calculate instant centers of the control arm movement and calculate roll couple from the CG moment arm. Please don't let them do it, it will hurt your handling. I have spent a whole year on the track and autoX to try to tune the correct amount on my car and it's still not perfect yet.

On a final note, don't buy into those marketing gimmicks of 32-way adjustable or however many crazy amount. Stay far far away from those, it is the easiest tell tale sign that the damper is worthless. Think about it this way, a real racing Moton or Penske dampers ranges about $800-$1000 EACH and only has 3-5 adjustments at most. Do you really think that F&F, ksport...etc engineers can out do this and give you a complete set with springs, mounts and 32-way adjustability at the price of one real damper? If that were true, then Penske would be reverse engineering these units and putting them on Formula 1 cars.
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^not true

Lowering springs are more for comfort if you are daily driving. They are typically progressive spring rates that are stiffer than stock so they lower CG but with more sporty but with comfort in mind.
says who?
my BC Racing coilovers are way more comfy than lowering springs w/stock shocks I had before them. These coilovers doesnt feel that hard than lowering springs w/stock shocks

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What brand of lowering springs did you have?

It doesn't really matter, that isn't his opinion its fact, along with everything else he said.
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What brand of lowering springs did you have?

It doesn't really matter, that isn't his opinion its fact, along with everything else he said.
dont really remember. sold them already

but that is a fact that those coilovers are better and more comfy than lowering springs
and then thats more opinion like thing what do you like: stiffer ride or more soft...

and about those adjustable-things... 30 way adjustable can be just like 3 or 4 way adjustable. there arent that much difference between like position 5 and 9...you can just "fine tune" them if you like to. it doesnt change much, just VERY little
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Everyone is overlooking the fact that you use lowering springs with coilovers. All the statements about how one rides or handles better or worse than the other are total b.s. They are the same thing. The only difference is the adjustability offered by coilovers. You can get progressive spring rates with either. You can get a stiffer or softer setup with either, depending on what you want. You can't just make sweeping generalizations about either to claim one is "better" than the other.

Get cheap coilovers, your car will drive like crap. Get cheap shocks and lowering springs, it will still drive like crap. Spend the money for a good setup with either, and it will drive much better than stock.
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Everyone is overlooking the fact that you use lowering springs with coilovers. The only difference is the adjustability offered by coilovers.
I didn't overlook it.
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Okay, everyone but you, Kronny-poo.
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Skunk2 lowering springs 1.5-1.75 inches with Tokico HP shocks. Would that be a smooth comfortable ride?
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I've never really understood the attraction of coil-overs on a street driven car. The adjustability is fine but I can't see adjusting ride height every month or even at all after I had it where I want it. I guess some guy's change winter to summer but that's the only reason that comes to mind. As has already been noted springs can be had in varying rates to adjust ride and fit either coil-over or conventional.

The one reason for coil-overs is if you want to adjust for corner weight. That's something that is usually done on serious track cars.

On the other hand, if what you want is coil-overs I guess that's reason enough!
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exept coilovers are designed to work with their springs. if you put just lowering springs your shocks doesnt work as theyre meant to be
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exept coilovers are designed to work with their springs. if you put just lowering springs your shocks doesnt work as theyre meant to be
If your shock is meant to be used with a lowering spring than yes it does. (Koni, Tokico, Bilstein)
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exept coilovers are designed to work with their springs. if you put just lowering springs your shocks doesnt work as theyre meant to be
See my first post?

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Either way, you should replace your shocks.
You will blow the stock shocks in no time if you use them with lowering springs.

Don't be a cheap ass, do it right or leave it alone.
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If your shock is meant to be used with a lowering spring than yes it does. (Koni, Tokico, Bilstein)
my example was stock shocks with lowering springs
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my example was stock shocks with lowering springs
Well that should never be done, so it's a bad example.
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