Well its finally time for a new clutch. I want to go with more of a stiffer clutch petal maybe extreme pressure plate what do you guys think? Any imput will help. Thanks
Competition Clutch 100%. It's what I use, and it's what I sell.
I currently use the Stage 4, which is a 6 puck cerametallic sprung hub clutch. Very nice, and holds very well. If you need tons of holding power (i.e. high HP turbo setup), look at their twin disk setup. Very nice indeed!
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ok question, my clutch, is a act stage 3 i believe. Its a lil stiff, and the friction point, expectedly, is really small.
My friend has a boosted 350z with almost 800 hp, he has an upgraded clutch, but it almost feels stock. Its not stiff at all, like, you can push the pedal down like its nothing. Friction point is pretty small too. So its just perfect.
Is there anything like that for our car?
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What exactly do you mean by the friction point is really small?
IIRC, my Stage 4 CC clutch isn't any stiffer than stock. Probably a little, but I hardly notice it.
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Ah perhaps i'm using the wrong term. Meaning it grabs fast, as in you dont have to push the clutch in deep, AND very quickly. Like if you depress it even a lttle bit, its gripping completely.
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I wouldn't go w/ a cc clutch. I had two go out on me. I had an stage 3 in my swapped civic and the cage broke. the spring f'd up everything including my fly. cc said they would cover it so i shipped it to em. then waited forever before they told me they wouldn't cover it. wasted a month and shipping. My cc stage 4 on my 2k lude only lasted about 10k before the pp wore out. the disk was fine, but the pp was no good. either way, neither clutch lasted a year. I have an act stage 3 in my greddy boosted 98 for almost 5 yrs now w/ no probs. Engages smoothly. my cc stage 3 was uber harsh. the stage 4 is not so bad.
Interesting. I've heard quite a few bad stories from ACT owners, but nothing from bad from CC owners, except a friend had a CC clutch spring come loose (it didn't come completely out), and when he received a replacement from CC, the pressure plate had been redesigned to prevent that very problem.
I've used a CC clutch in my track car for 3+ years, and David has used a CC clutch in his track car for just as long. He does at least twice as many track events as I do, and his pressure plate and disk looked fine the last time we removed the trans. He's had plenty of standing starts and race miles on it without any trouble. I haven't done any standing starts with mine, but it receives it's fair share of use at the track.
I've sold one stage 3 that was reported to be buttery smooth by the end user. That's what the segmented kevlar is supposed to do. I'm not sure how it could be overly harsh unless it's not broken in properly, and when that happens, I'm told they slip. Granted, I have no first hand experience with the CC Stage 3 clutch. Stage 4 is generally more harsh with engagement since it's a 4/6 puck cerametallic disk vs. a segmented kevlar disk.
I've had very good luck with CC, and I haven't had any complaints.
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Well its finally time for a new clutch. I want to go with more of a stiffer clutch petal maybe extreme pressure plate what do you guys think? Any imput will help. Thanks
Why would you want this?
I'm going to pick on the OP a little.
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I am somewhat baffled by users who want the biggest, baddest clutch out there. Especially if the car is a daily driver, trust me you don't want that. Stiff clutches are a nightmare in traffic, and I can't imagine anyone 30 days after install is still raving about their pedal feel. On my own car, I want the clutch with the softest possible pedal feel, and the most linear engagement.
Clutches should be matched to the application. For a street car, you should be running an organic or kevlar clutch. If you are turbo, you are going to need something with more grip. For drag and track, you need something that can withstand high heat.
Furthermore, most people don't seem to get that the clutch is designed as a "fail-safe" for your drivetrain. Over implementing the clutch is a recipe for breaking things. The clutch is designed to slip when the needs of the motor become very different from the rest of the drivetrain, and I tend to favor clutches that will do this properly. This generally means I avoid 6-puck metallic clutches and anything more rediculous, unless your car sees track time once a week. I think most of the clutch solutions out there are way over-engineered, and a bad fit for nearly every enthusiast.
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the one where the cage broke was on a weekend car that never saw any hard launches or shifts. it was pretty much an ongoing project. it was awhile ago, back when the stage 3 was the ironman. the stage 4 on the lude was just last year.
For the street, I recommend not going w/ a puck disk from my experience with them. I had a 6 puck and it was just ridiculously harsh engagement for daily street use. You also have the tendency to get that annoying squeal during engagement sometimes. Iv'e been running an ACT extreme plate w/ street performance organic disc in my car for a while. Even with 400+whp the street disc holds fine
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Competition Clutch 100%. It's what I use, and it's what I sell.
I currently use the Stage 4, which is a 6 puck cerametallic sprung hub clutch. Very nice, and holds very well. If you need tons of holding power (i.e. high HP turbo setup), look at their twin disk setup. Very nice indeed!
Does anyone know where 71dsp is? I'm trying to get a Competition Clutch from him but he hasn't replied.
I have been very happy with my Fidanza 3.2 (Kevlar 4-puck) and 8# flywheel. This is on a mostly-stock power '98 5th gen taht is my summer DD and AutoX Biatch. Very smooth, yet will hold up to the abuse of AutoX launches and shifts (after proper break-in of course!).
Had a exedy sport clutch (one stage up from the stock spec one they offer). Broke on me. Had problems shifting (started suddenly on a lapping day), and ignored the problem until my clutch cylinder broke and I couldn't shift anymore. Got a CC stage 3 from billy from his group buy a while back, along with ultralight flywheel.
It's too early to say anything about reliability. the engagement is smooth, pedal firmness equal to or lighter than exedy sport. I haven't been back on a road course since I put it in so I can't say how it handles abuse, and I've been pretty easy on the clutch on the street.
Also, buckwild has the same exedy clutch and is now experiencing the same problem I had with shifting. Except I'm telling him to switch that **** out before it causes more damage.
If you want to go with an ACT then check out my For Sale thread in the Personal Classifieds section. I have a brand new ACT 6puck clutch with an Xtreme pressure plate for sale. $200 plus shipping.
If the car is being driving daily, I wouldnt go with anything too firm. I have a centerfoce II clutch. And have been very happy with it. Its a little firmer then stock. Grips real nice. Its great for a little more feel in the car, but livable for everyday driving
Plus, Centerforce has been making clutches for years.
do organic clutches actually work pretty well? ive heard good things but i also heard that they go out entirely to quickly. what do you guys think. (exedy to be exact)
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