Ok so first off i'll just go ahead and tell you what happened. Keep in mind that i'm no mechanic, so if throughout this whole thing i don't know a certain part or something, forgive me.
Ok so just a day ago i was driving and all of a sudden my battery light went on, first reaction was oh fck. Two seconds later my power steering went out and my check engine light went on. So immediately i pulled over pissed off that i thought my car just sh*t the bed, i popped the hood and took a peek at the engine. Right off the bat i saw that my power steering belt and my serpentine belt had come off, not completely, but they were definitely off the pulleys. So obviously i couldn't drive around with them just hanging there so i got them off the pulleys and threw them in my trunk. As i was taking off the serpentine belt though i noticed that the lower pulley on the engine (the one with a big pulley for the serpentine belt and a smaller one for the power steering) was loose to the point where it wobbled when i pulled on the belt. So obviously i found out how they came off. After i threw the belts in my trunk i decided to drive my car home since i was in town and my house was less than a mile away. The car got home fine with no problems, no over heating, no strange reactions. I called up my mechanic and got an appointment in the next two days. Now that it is time to get my car down to my mechanic, it won't start.... just my luck. I can clearly tell that it's just the battery that doesn't have enough juice to run my car. Does anyone know what i can do to get my car started and have it run long enough to get it to my mechanic? His garage is about a mile from my house. ANY input would be greatly appreciated!
do you have a manual? put it in 2nd, push in the clutch, have someone push you (or roll down a hill - even better) and then pop the clutch when it gets to about 10mph
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First of all check the keyway and make sure its not damaged if not tighten the crank pulley back up before moving the car because if the pulley comes off there is nothing keeping your timing in allignment and you may bend valves also the crank sensor will not work properly if its not in the right position your balancing belt pulley has markings on it that the crank sensor runs off and if its pushed away from the block it will cause the car to misfire and eventually quit
Your crank pully might be unbalanced, that be a reason why the belts come off. I agree that your battery is probably dead because your alternator wasn't turning.
Well, i ended up getting my car towed to my mechanic. Figured it was the safest thing to do. It wasn't the battery though. I charged it over night and tried to start it up in the morning, it was cranking but nothing was doing much more than that. As of right now the motor is being taken apart to figure out what is going on. My mechanic basically told me the same thing that CT0315 said which was exactly what i was afraid of. Right now i'm just waiting for the call to see what is going on. i'm just praying that my Prelude is not a Deadlude.
Well, i ended up getting my car towed to my mechanic. Figured it was the safest thing to do. It wasn't the battery though. I charged it over night and tried to start it up in the morning, it was cranking but nothing was doing much more than that. As of right now the motor is being taken apart to figure out what is going on. My mechanic basically told me the same thing that CT0315 said which was exactly what i was afraid of. Right now i'm just waiting for the call to see what is going on. i'm just praying that my Prelude is not a Deadlude.
wth! nOOo not you! Hopefully all goes well! We need to see more pictures of that beautiful prelude!
wth! nOOo not you! Hopefully all goes well! We need to see more pictures of that beautiful prelude!
hahaha thanks KraserK. I actually have a handfull of pictures that i never put up lol i'll have to dig them up and post them for you. As of right now i'm still anxiously waiting for that call...
Actually, I agree with Kraser, you car is beautiful. Post 'em now!
No, but hopefully what is known as the "keyway" isn't ****ed up, or you may be in the market for a new crank. (correct?)
Hopefully. The timing belt may be off which could have bent a valve or severely damaged the engine to the point of no return So i may be studying up on engine swaps and maybe i'll be starting a new thread in the future??? But thats kind of a big maybe what really sucks is that i just got a pair JDM fog lights for christmas which i put in a couple weeks ago oh well. i'll keep you guys updated.
just got the call......
valves are bent.......
mother fcker.
now i'll be looking for a new motor...
if anyone knows, or can enlighten me if there is any way around getting a whole new motor... please do tell, like is there any way i can replace the valves, or maybe just invest in a new head. i'll be doing some research myself, but any suggestions would be great.
hmmmmmm, i'll look into this. I have zero experience in rebuilding an engine lol so i have a lot to learn. Basically my mechanic told me that if i wanted to go that route i would need to have the head rebuilt and then get the timing belt serviced. Now i'm just wondering the cost of rebuilding the head vs. buying a used head.
well if you are just goin to buy a new head then it wont be as much as rebuilding yours. Check the classifieds for another head. If you are goin to be rebuilding then expect to pay a fair amount more(valves, valves seals, valve guides, springs, possibly new cams<depending on damage, if the valves got smashed and jammed the cams>, retainers, and then there is the machione work and the assembly. The last head i had rebuilt cost me around 2000(canadien dollars) all in (machine work, parts and labour....cams included).
If all you really need is valves i could take mine out of my head and sell them to you cheap. Just enough to cover the cost of the valve spring compressor basically lol. Just pm me
well if you are just goin to buy a new head then it wont be as much as rebuilding yours. Check the classifieds for another head. If you are goin to be rebuilding then expect to pay a fair amount more(valves, valves seals, valve guides, springs, possibly new cams<depending on damage, if the valves got smashed and jammed the cams>, retainers, and then there is the machione work and the assembly. The last head i had rebuilt cost me around 2000(canadien dollars) all in (machine work, parts and labour....cams included).
Yeah i looked in the classifieds and found a head for $400 so that might be the way i'm gonna go. I'm wondering if the pistons on my engine were damaged at all when the valves got bent. i have to look into it more.
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This is why you always make sure your timing belt is under the service period...
the strange thing is that my timing belt was just serviced at 108,000 miles. the car has 156,000 miles on it as of right now. so the timing belt itself only had 48,000 miles on it...
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If all you really need is valves i could take mine out of my head and sell them to you cheap. Just enough to cover the cost of the valve spring compressor basically lol. Just pm me
haha thanks man, i'll let you know what i end up doing.
did your tensioner fail? if you had the servicing done on the timing belt end, then that should not have happend. Also, if your valves had been damaged extensivelly then i would be looking into the effects that may have had on your sleeves. I say this as if there was any flaking or particulate/debris created when your valve collision occured, and you had tried to turn over the car, then this debris may have gotten caught in the cylinder walls, causing scoring on the sleeve and possibly destroying the piston rings. when you remove the head have a look see at the condition of the sleeve wall, as well as keep your eyes open for small peices of flaked metal.
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