Like the title says, i have a question on if i should go with a prelude with this set up. $11,000 with 100K miles, H22 motor, kunk 2 intake manifold and throttle body, Skunk 2 cam gears, reddy cold air intake.DCSport headers. Tien coilover suspension. Rotora big brake kit. 18 ASA racing wheel wrapped in Yokohama tires. Proxe 215/40/ZR18's tires. Xenon HID headlamps. BMW M series paint. Slotted rotors. Custom done leather interior w/ a leather headliner. K-40 radar. Greddy front lip. Apexi M-1 full exhaust. Apexi Vtec controller. Short shifter. Carbon fiber console and dash kit imported from Japan. Front and rear upper and lower Tanabe strut bracing. Pioneer D3 Navigation system. Memphis sub woofer and Memphis amp. Fosgate front and rear speaker setup. Tinted windows. Carbon fiber rear camera. Water pump and timing belt were changed 3000 miles ago. Off of the pics it looks pretty legit, going to see the car up front in a week.
97's have the most problems of them all because they were the first year of that gen, i forget the specs but there are many things they changed from 97-99 due to problems etc. Most of those parts are cheep ones, the exhaust is nothing special nor is the head work. The coilovers are nice along with the rims. The sloted rotors have a tendency to crack as do any. A bunch of add on's (no real power) doesnt almost double the price of what a car is worth. Also depends alot on how the owner kept/drove it. If it is a young kid then the car has most likely been beat on because he had to prove to his friends he was faster then them as i once did lol i would tell him to take the bull**** pats off and offer him close to 8k
97's have the most problems of them all because they were the first year of that gen, i forget the specs but there are many things they changed from 97-99 due to problems etc.
Like what? I have to disagree until convinced otherwise...
97's have the most problems of them all because they were the first year of that gen, i forget the specs but there are many things they changed from 97-99 due to problems etc. Most of those parts are cheep ones, the exhaust is nothing special nor is the head work. The coilovers are nice along with the rims. The sloted rotors have a tendency to crack as do any. A bunch of add on's (no real power) doesnt almost double the price of what a car is worth. Also depends alot on how the owner kept/drove it. If it is a young kid then the car has most likely been beat on because he had to prove to his friends he was faster then them as i once did lol i would tell him to take the bull**** pats off and offer him close to 8k
hmmm, didnt think about that really. The carfax report came out pretty good, owner had the car for 7 years, passed all vehicle inspections, etc.
97's have the most problems of them all because they were the first year of that gen, i forget the specs but there are many things they changed from 97-99 due to problems etc.
This is not true. The number of changes after 97 is very small and minor.
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This is not true. The number of changes after 97 is very small and minor.
+1
Although, there was a known issue with the ATTS Control units for the 97s. But I dont think it was common. Overall, 5th gens are 5th gens. (minus the auto tranny of course)
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95 Integra LS <<<>>> 99 CBM Prelude SH
I agree about those half-ass mods bein no big deal, but even without those mods, is it worth 8K? Watch out for those kids that say, "yeah, oil change every 3k miles religiously man, totally", because no oil change can protect a car from the authentic abuse of a young adult(there should be a book on this). Be careful what you're buyin, becuase it's almost impossible to tell if it's been abused, yet that can make the difference between your car livin for 150k miles, or 250k miles. I'm sorry I really can't help more than I can just tell you to "watch out" which doesn't help, but just my 2 cents.
Differences between 97/98 and 99-2001 preludes (not because of sh/base either)
1. 99's rear glass has an antenna built in, the 97 does not.
2. 99's have a cabin filter built in, the 97 does not.
3. 99's have keyless entry (standard), the 97/98 does not.
4. 99's have A/C filters, 97/98 does not.
5. 99's have different fuel tanks, 97/98 has 2 less vent tubes
6. 99's have big evap purge canister (square one with 2 big hoses on the bottom) 97 has a single small one (about 1/4 the size) - Did not met OBD2 standards and Honda got suied (reason why some hondas got extended warranties)
7. 99's have different oil pumps (re-designed) sh/base are the same
8. 99's More color's available.
9. 99's engine gained 5 horsepower.
10. 99's engine did not require a tune up until 100,000 miles.
Thats all i have for now (gota go to class again) But I will update list later tonight theres alot more
Differences between 97/98 and 99-2001 preludes (not because of sh/base either)
1. 99's rear glass has an antenna built in, the 97 does not.
2. 99's have a cabin filter built in, the 97 does not.
3. 99's have keyless entry (standard), the 97/98 does not.
4. 99's have A/C filters, 97/98 does not.
5. 99's have different fuel tanks, 97/98 has 2 less vent tubes
6. 99's have big evap purge canister (square one with 2 big hoses on the bottom) 97 has a single small one (about 1/4 the size) - Did not met OBD2 standards and Honda got suied (reason why some hondas got extended warranties)
7. 99's have different oil pumps (re-designed) sh/base are the same
8. 99's More color's available.
9. 99's engine gained 5 horsepower.
10. 99's engine did not require a tune up until 100,000 miles.
Thats all i have for now (gota go to class again) But I will update list later tonight theres alot more
My 98 has an antenna built in the rear glass I've never seen a 5gen w/ an external antenna (or even a 4gen now that I think of it)
The a/c filter and cabin filter you talk about are the same thing.
You can have keyless entry installed for 100-150 bucks if you want it.
colors, meh...
the 5hp thing has been contested ever since 1999.
I guess someone recently suggested that the chassis on the 99-01 were stiffer, but I've never seen any concrete evidence.
97 Prelude antenna is indeed integrated in the rear window. That's why the top 1/4 takes forever to defrost.
Other things I have dealt with on my 97...the rear headliner wasn't properly glued from the factory-fixed during recall; Ball joints had to be replaced-fixed with a recall, ignition issue-Honda wide problem also fixed with a recall.
The biggest difference between a 97 and 99 that I see are two more years of possible abuse...unless you wanted green paint with a two tone interior.
That price quote is also about 2X the KBB value for that car...so make sure you're willing to pay that much for the candy. But I'm stating the obvious here.
Differences between 97/98 and 99-2001 preludes (not because of sh/base either)
1. 99's rear glass has an antenna built in, the 97 does not.
2. 99's have a cabin filter built in, the 97 does not.
3. 99's have keyless entry (standard), the 97/98 does not.
4. 99's have A/C filters, 97/98 does not.
5. 99's have different fuel tanks, 97/98 has 2 less vent tubes
6. 99's have big evap purge canister (square one with 2 big hoses on the bottom) 97 has a single small one (about 1/4 the size) - Did not met OBD2 standards and Honda got suied (reason why some hondas got extended warranties)
7. 99's have different oil pumps (re-designed) sh/base are the same
8. 99's More color's available.
9. 99's engine gained 5 horsepower.
10. 99's engine did not require a tune up until 100,000 miles.
1. False. 97-98 have this too.
2. True.
3. False. I have seen 97-98 with factory keyless entry. May have been an option at the dealer, but this is irrelevant to a used car buyer.
4. Same as #2.
5. True. Irrelevant to a buyer.
6. True. Irrelevant to a buyer.
7. True. Oil pumps needed to change because Honda changed the crank and block then. This is the only real difference this could make to the user is if they decide to build their block.
8. True. However, Honda regularly changes available colors on existing models.
9. False. I claim this is purely marketing BS. Users here have been over these cars with a fine tooth comb, and there is actually no recorded difference between power outputs on any 5th gen Prelude. This is basically just silly marketing by Honda.
10. Most definitely false. Honda defines regular service intervals of, at a maximum, 30k miles. Several items are supposed to be done at 15k miles. This is straight from the Owner's Manual.
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Ok, well despite all the "problems" 2001 sh's are supposed to have... The owner did have it for 7 years, passed all safety/emissions tests.
If the car did have all these "problems" i wouldn't expect the owner to have it for 7 years, but you never know. Anyways luckily the lude is in a shop close by
For Comparison I just bought a 97 Prelude SH for $6500 with 81k. Totally stock, clean carfax. Needs timing belt, radiator and has a couple small dings, no rust though. Mods are nice, but their value is questionable.
honestly i'd keep looking...bought a 97 sh (h22a swap/matching tranny) for 6400. only 60k on the motor, with receipts etc..i was kinda paraniod about buying a swapped car even with the reciepts..so took it to the honda dealership, spent 80$ for them to check it out, everything checked out except for a cv joint...i think it was worth the extra ease in mind. but good luck with whatever you decide.
97's have the most problems of them all because they were the first year of that gen, i forget the specs but there are many things they changed from 97-99 due to problems etc.
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I've never seen a 5gen w/ an external antenna (or even a 4gen now that I think of it)
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