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Old 04-05-2010, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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black matte flat paintjob?

Anyone attempted here for a black matt paint job on an 5th gen? I have seen 4th gen black matt but not any pictures of an 5th gen. I might want to consider it. Thanks.
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You can only pull off the matte look with vinyl. Primer it or use flat paint and your car deserves to be burnt to the ground.
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Shimee.

Lambo is using Matte finish paint now. And it is RAW.
Balloon white is the color name BTW.
And they don't just do white:


But I'm pretty sure they don't use vinyl.
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my friend has a flat black maxima, was done properly in a oven in a paint shop. It came out great i think.

This is a example of a flat black civic SI
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wow that flat black civic is sexy
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And this GT-R is just sexy as hell in matte black.
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I thought I remembered see someone on here that had a vinyl, matte black finish on a 5th gen but I can't find it.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Matte finish looks unfinished, like hillbillies rolling in pickups that are primer gray.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Matte finish looks unfinished, like hillbillies rolling in pickups that are primer gray.
Matte finish is finished to look dull, opposed to the typical gloss which is finished to look shiny. Each has its advantages in the looks of the car. Matte finish will draw more attention to Lines in the body, whereas standard polished finish will draw more attention to curves in the body. Mattes will bring focus to areas of the car that are polished (lights/windshield/wheels), gloss will bring focus to areas of the car that have small details (Rims/wheels/etc)

To each his own, but I personally love a nice matte finish when its done properly. If its not done properly, yes, it does look like unfinished primered hillbilly trash
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Matte finish looks unfinished, like hillbillies rolling in pickups that are primer gray.
Agree with this guy. Hmm im sure this thread is old I have seen this before
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Satin black 5gen

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That looks hot! I used to work in a vinyl shop so i could probably do this myself with some of my old equipment. Hmm gets me thinkin about a prooojeect

(rest assured i'd never do a vinyl job with bubbles in it!!!!!!!)
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I think matte finishes would be really nice if they were 1)less expensive than a normal paintjob, and 2)required less upkeep.

But I have a feeling that neither of those would prove true, rendering one of those matte paint jobs to be sort of stupid.

I don't mind that look of unfinished crappyness, what I would look for is it's ability to take abuse--basically meaning I don't want to have to take care of it. Paint care is a *****, and it irritates me that every time I wash my car--once a week--I find more clear-coat loss....
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I think matte finishes would be really nice if they were 1)less expensive than a normal paintjob, and 2)required less upkeep.

But I have a feeling that neither of those would prove true, rendering one of those matte paint jobs to be sort of stupid.

I don't mind that look of unfinished crappyness, what I would look for is it's ability to take abuse--basically meaning I don't want to have to take care of it. Paint care is a *****, and it irritates me that every time I wash my car--once a week--I find more clear-coat loss....
Thats the benefit of Matte.

Example: Look at an iPhone 3G, and a Blackberry. Which one do you notice more scratches? Which one do you notice more finger prints? Which one do you notice more dirt? The Glossy one, not the flat/matte one
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Well then, I may look into doing matte black on another one of my cars; never the prelude.

Do you have to clear-coat matte paint jobs? Do they have matte white paint?
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pIERCE, from looking around seems vinyl is the way to go if you can do it yourself, or get it professionally done. You can guarantee the vinyl is quality then guarantee its laid quality and you're set, no need to worry about running paint, bad coating, oven baking to set the finish, and cheaper too, also protects the paint underneath! (though may take the clearcoat with it if you go)

Been looking around today and seen so far: Matte black/silver/white and Satin black/silver which is pretty interesting. I'd definately like to see one up close before I do something but I'm in need of a paint job and i dont feel like forkin over $3k for a good one when i can do a sweet matte finish for 1/4 the price. My Hood and Wing are in most need, i may pick up a few square yards and see how it looks on just the hood/trunk. If i dont like it, i can always take it off to see my ****ty paint underneath again!
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My friend did his maxima completely + rusts repair , holes , ect .... black matt flat , 2300$ canadian.....In USA , perhaps, it'll be like 1500$. Im talking about a known guy with reputation but small shop.

Black is always known as black matt flat ... Like a primer but a bit more glossy and better looking (You can really differenciate between PRIMER and BLACK FLAT PAINT JOB)

As for white, the only good looking ones are Pearl White Flat (just like the lamb) other white looks almost identical to primer white.
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pIERCE, from looking around seems vinyl is the way to go if you can do it yourself, or get it professionally done. You can guarantee the vinyl is quality then guarantee its laid quality and you're set, no need to worry about running paint, bad coating, oven baking to set the finish, and cheaper too, also protects the paint underneath! (though may take the clearcoat with it if you go)

Been looking around today and seen so far: Matte black/silver/white and Satin black/silver which is pretty interesting. I'd definately like to see one up close before I do something but I'm in need of a paint job and i dont feel like forkin over $3k for a good one when i can do a sweet matte finish for 1/4 the price. My Hood and Wing are in most need, i may pick up a few square yards and see how it looks on just the hood/trunk. If i dont like it, i can always take it off to see my ****ty paint underneath again!
I think many of your sentences on vinyl wrapping your car are more assumptions and heresay than actual facts. First, although a plus to vinyl compared to paint is that paint could leave unevenness or runs, vinyl isn't always 100% perfect. In fact, the best vinyl covers in the world still can be differentiated between real paint. It's just the pictures you've seen that would give the illusion of vinyl being just as good as paint.

Second, it won't take the clearcoat with it with a few exceptions. First, you can't have crappy quality clearcoat (such as the kind from DIY touch up jobs) because then it'll take it off when removed. But as for the cars OEM color and clearcoat, most vinyl companies give a warranty of 7 years if the paint is brand new. Also, conditions such as sunlight exposure will diminish the length of time you can have it on.

Third, wrapping an entire car in vinyl and the labor involved will not cost 1/4 of the price of a paint job. It's more like 3/4. This will significantly play with people's choice of wanting to get it wrapped or not because you have a color for only 7 years max before you have to unwrap it or get the car re-wrapped. Whereas it can be argued that a properly maintained OEM finish could last the life of the car or close to it. The cost savings become negligible.

The real answer to if you should vinyl wrap your car versus painting it lies in what you want it to actually accomplish. If you're looking for temporary fixes and have the money now, but aren't sure you'll have the car or money in the future, then vinyl is the way to go. If your car is going to be a possession you hold on to for a while and drive daily, then repainting it will pay for itself in time. One more comment for the vinyl crowd, and that is that accidents involving body panel replacement are going to be less expensive than paint, however, color choices for vinyl will be limited overall to your range of colors and appearance (lots of matte and satin choices, not as much glossy finishes).
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Vinyl seems like more trouble than it's worth.....

I think I may just never repaint that old car.
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@prepreludish well for me, pockets small, and need of new look big. I worked with vinyl for about 4 years in a sign shop (doing a few vehicle wraps here and there) So i'm confident in doing it myself and getting 100% perfection (mostly b/c i wont stop until i do). With that price for a DIY vinyl (if you know what you're doing) can be a whole lot cheaper. Good vinyl can get up to $20/linear foot, i'm gonna guesstimate (which will be wrong but...) and say about 60 feet (ish give or take 10-15 feet) around $1200, lookin at labor probably $800-$100 so around $2-2.5k for an excellent vinyl job, a good paint job starts around there but can go up to $4k for some niceness. You could most likely get cheaper vinyl if doing it yourself, if you can get it through someone. I priced flat black for auto from my old boss at the sign shop for $750 for a 25 yard roll (75 feet). almost $500 cheaper!

For me, the look is great (and easier to do with vinyl) Matte finish paint is EEXXPPENNSIVVE due to the processes to finish, the price is cheap enough, and I can do it myself, i think i'm gonna do it! only problem is my car is red so i'd need something done about the inside!! For most though it's about the same as a decent paint (cheaper than matte paint) but wont last as long as a good paint job
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