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Old 03-18-2002, 04:21 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I didn't intend on a sh vs. base thing. I was just saying the problems I've had trying to locate parts, and problems with parts i had/ going to have.
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Old 03-18-2002, 06:16 AM   #42 (permalink)
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u take your sh to a auto x with suspsion mods and ill take my base. ill show you what i can do

i was beatin wrx's at this event. only a few but still 4wd.

i was on my stockies
It's more about the driver in an autocross.
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Old 03-18-2002, 10:17 AM   #43 (permalink)
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$2000 extra for an SH? i think not. i searched all over the place for a 1997 prelude. it could either be an SH or a base. I haggled with many many people over prices. needless to say there were many more bases for sale than SH's. but when i did find an SH, they only wanted $500 more than all the other bases i was looking at. So i got a great deal on it!

500 bucks for ATTS =
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Old 03-18-2002, 12:00 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Feeling like you're on a roller coaster taking a U turn and laugen at everyone in your car while they **** their pants.... Priceless!!!
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Old 03-18-2002, 08:36 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Mustang (antique model) broke down too much-- needed a new car.

Looked around for anything used for $10k-$15k that seated four, had a turbo, manual trans, RWD or 4WD and wasn't ugly.

Ended up getting a non-turbo FWD with all the other things I was looking for. Type SH Prelude.

Hated to start, hated it off and on for the last two years because it won't turbo and is not RWD/4WD. I have loved how it drives from the start and still do. It'll do anything.

But I would never buy one again I don't like FWD unders teer plow, and I want 400 turbocharged horsepower before all the cars are hybrid, fuel cell electrics with telematics that take over the job of the driver.

To note, though, when I bought the car in 2000, there wasn't much of a better selection at that time, although I never did get to try out a Subaru 2.5RS.

Keep the car and drive the piss out of it (gently). Enjoy. Later on you'll be able to buy exactly what you want.

For my car, I have finally just said "f*ck it!" to the whole car customization mess. I will fit on much better tires, coilovers, and eventually a stiffer clutch as needed, but this isn't a Ferarri. It's a Prelude. Preludes slice through traffic, not the Autobahn.

When I start getting paid professionally and manage to save a little, I'll buy exactly what I want in a car, and if the dealer doesn't carry it from the factory, too bad for them. No $30-$40k from me.

Enjoy the Prelude for what it is designed to do (but buy really good shocks and tires). Honda makes too much of an effort to build a car that can't be effectively modified to do more.

-Kahn I.
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Old 03-19-2002, 06:40 AM   #46 (permalink)
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the prelude was the best car that i was looking for i wanted a FWD (better for wet/snow than RWD) and i was looking for a 4 cylinder (better gas mileage, less insurance) but i also wanted it to be fast. the eclipse was out b/c there were too many of them. nissan didn't have anything i liked and i didn't even find subaru 2.5rs's for a while. so that left the prelude.

I MADE A GOOD CHOICE!

oh yeah, and the chevy z24 sucks ass.
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Old 03-19-2002, 03:07 PM   #47 (permalink)
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only 35 more horse with a jrsc...I thought it was more like 60-70
the 235 hp figure i gave was power at the wheels which is about a 60-70hp increase. horsepower at the wheels is what matters. at the crank, i would say anywhwere from 275 to 285hp.
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Old 03-20-2002, 01:12 PM   #48 (permalink)
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No regrets here... I'd buy the SH again over the base. And I do plan to go with FI (8psi max) in the next year or two... after the warranty expires.
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Old 03-20-2002, 01:14 PM   #49 (permalink)
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ok.. let's not start this *SH vs. Base* all over again.

like i said before: if you don't own an SH, you don't have a right to chime in here.
well said
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Old 03-20-2002, 01:21 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I don't regret getting my SH but if I had to buy a Prelude again I would've done a Base with a Quaife instead. If I keep my car I'd want to do the new Greddy turbo and worrying about that kit on the SH doesn't sound fun.
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I don't regret getting my SH but if I had to buy a Prelude again I would've done a Base with a Quaife instead. If I keep my car I'd want to do the new Greddy turbo and worrying about that kit on the SH doesn't sound fun.
::sigh::

That kit does not produce enough boost to be a problem for atts... Greddy will have a kit out specifically for the SH, with a modified downpipe. There has been a big problem with people being misinformed about the nature of atts coupled with boost. We have several SH's on this board running FI, and no problems. Greddy has to modify the oil feed line and the downpipe for the kit to fit on an SH... THAT'S why the SH kit will follow the base kit.

sheesh

<please take no offense... this ATTS/FI "issue" just has me really annoyed>
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Old 03-20-2002, 02:05 PM   #52 (permalink)
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::sigh::

That kit does not produce enough boost to be a problem for atts... Greddy will have a kit out specifically for the SH, with a modified downpipe. There has been a big problem with people being misinformed about the nature of atts coupled with boost. We have several SH's on this board running FI, and no problems. Greddy has to modify the oil feed line and the downpipe for the kit to fit on an SH... THAT'S why the SH kit will follow the base kit.

sheesh

<please take no offense... this ATTS/FI "issue" just has me really annoyed>
just look at my username. i'm running just fine with an SH and FI. no problems at all, (knock on wood). only problem is figuring out just how many car lengths i beat that mustang by. and how many light years i've beaten civics by.
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::sigh::

That kit does not produce enough boost to be a problem for atts... Greddy will have a kit out specifically for the SH, with a modified downpipe. There has been a big problem with people being misinformed about the nature of atts coupled with boost. We have several SH's on this board running FI, and no problems. Greddy has to modify the oil feed line and the downpipe for the kit to fit on an SH... THAT'S why the SH kit will follow the base kit.

sheesh

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My issue with the ATTS is that I kick lights from time to time without reason. Adding boost only increases my chance of f**king up the ATTS unit. Like I said I don't regret getting an SH but for the extra $$$ I paid if I had to do it again I wouldn't have. As for the Greddy kit I had read in an email sent to them from someone on this board that they had no plans on releasing a SH kit.
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My issue with the ATTS is that I kick lights from time to time without reason. Adding boost only increases my chance of f**king up the ATTS unit. Like I said I don't regret getting an SH but for the extra $$$ I paid if I had to do it again I wouldn't have. As for the Greddy kit I had read in an email sent to them from someone on this board that they had no plans on releasing a SH kit.
Yeah, I was the one who sent them the email requesting information (a few others have sent them emails since then). Last I heard: they do have plans to offer a kit that will fit the SH... and if they don't, then just have your tuner fab the downpipe and modify the oil feed line.
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