Another swap or rebuild? plz help - Honda Prelude Forum

rockitfuel · 05-05-2010, 09:01 AM

I have an 01 SH with 75K miles that I over revved by shifting to too low of a gear momentarily. The over rev misshift was not real bad as I estimate it was about a 12k rev.

At first I thought everything was ok because it runs fine as I continue down the interstate. As I get in to traffic I realize it will not idle and runs very rough under 2k rpms. I then discover there is a tapping sound coming from under the valve cover. I’m thinking it’s not that bad until I take it to an independent mechanic. He did a compression test and tells me the engine is toast. He starts telling me how he found a replacement SH engine in Texas with 68K for $3800 and it would be about $6000 after labor to replace it. This engine would have a 12 month/12k warranty. He also said rebuilding it would be “like a patch” and probably wouldn’t last 10k miles.

Yes. I don’t know much about this. I just don’t want to spend 6k right away so I’m thinking ill get the SH back home and see what’s broke under the valve cover to start. It’s not my primary driver.

If I do swap the engine, what are my choices?

Any ideas or info please.
Thank You

indylude18 · 05-05-2010, 09:38 AM

I would find a better mechanic. That one is A) Asking way too much for a swap and B) Lying about needing a new engine. He cannot possibly diagnose definitively that you need a new engine from a compression test alone, it's much more likely that you just have a bunch of bent valves. He probably just doesn't want to mess with a rebuild, and if he told you a rebuild won't last, he doesn't know how to do it right anyway. Best case scenario you can just find a complete used head for cheap(If you get lucky, around $100) and swap it. Worst case is that you damaged the pistons and need a bottom end rebuild, but that is unlikely and would require further testing to confirm.

You would need an engine out of any 5th gen SH if you want to keep the current transmission and ATTS if you do swap. If you only swap the head, you can use any h22 head.

chris112818 · 05-05-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by indylude18

I would find a better mechanic. That one is A) Asking way too much for a swap and B) Lying about needing a new engine. He cannot possibly diagnose definitively that you need a new engine from a compression test alone, it's much more likely that you just have a bunch of bent valves. He probably just doesn't want to mess with a rebuild, and if he told you a rebuild won't last, he doesn't know how to do it right anyway. Best case scenario you can just find a complete used head for cheap(If you get lucky, around $100) and swap it. Worst case is that you damaged the pistons and need a bottom end rebuild, but that is unlikely and would require further testing to confirm.

You would need an engine out of any 5th gen SH if you want to keep the current transmission and ATTS if you do swap. If you only swap the head, you can use any h22 head.

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I concur

rockitfuel · 05-05-2010, 08:01 PM

I talked with the mechanic today and he did a little back peddling. I don't think he is being outwardly dishonest. I just figure im going to become an expert on this before I do anything.
Thanks for getting back to me.

indylude18 · 05-05-2010, 08:10 PM

I wouldn't go as far as to say he is being completely dishonest, but he is probably just high-balling/misleading you because he doesn't want to do it. You could probably get a swap done by Honda for less than what he is asking.

vainot4u · 05-05-2010, 10:00 PM

Sorry but $3800 for a SH motor?? No thanks!! Especially when you can get a JDM Type-S complete swap for $2899 from here WITH free shipping:

JDM Engine Corp Engine Details - Used Honda Prelude JDM H22A Vtec DOHC Type S / SH 1997 - 2001 Engine Swap

The Type-S motor is more powerful and more sought after than the SH motor...at least I'd think so...

I'm sure there are plenty of mechanics that could do the swap for FAR less than he's asking too...$2200...is just bogus...Indy your too nice! My guess is the mechanic knows you know nothing about cars and is taking you for a ride...best advice: find another mechanic! Personally I'd tell him his dishonesty cost him your business, maybe he'll think twice before trying to rip someone else off...

rockitfuel · 05-24-2010, 09:21 AM

What I finally did.

I ended up taking the Lude out of the shop after paying the guy for his $45 pressure check diagnostic that explained how I needed to replace the engine for $6200. I took it to a place here, Primarily Japanese, they said a bunch of valves were bent and recommended a head rebuild. They machined the head and replaced all the valves with a bunch of other stuff including the timing chain and tensioner for $2100. I did consider getting a JDM engine that might have made this just a little fun but decided it was too much to deal with.

Thanks again for the input, did learn a lot on this one but I would have been fine just skipping the whole thing and keeping the money.

cena2020 · 05-27-2010, 04:28 AM

I'm trying to rebuild a 4 disk RAID 5 array on a SATA perc 5i controller. One drive was apparently disconnected from the Raid array and left unconnected for some time. I pulled the drive out and formatted it, then tested it for errors. HDTune tells me the drive has no errors.

I had previously deleted the drive partition and attempted to rebuild the array, however, neither the perc controlled bios nor the dell openmanage software gave me the rebuild option. What am i missing to enable this task? Should the drive be formatted in any specific manner? left unformatted? partitioned? unpartitioned? or am i overlooking something else Right now the raid array shows up in Disk manager as a basic drive. I don't know what this means but the raid array manager doesn't show any backplane, which i noticed some of the perc 5i controllers have when i checked dell support pages.
OS is SBS 2003

RAID 5 Rebuild
I have a RAID 5 server with a failed hard disk. I'm not much into these kind of things but at present I have to perform the replacement / rebuild and I'm not so sure how. Can someone tell me the procedure. Can I shut down the server and insert the new disk? Can i just open the web bios and rebuild manually? Any other precautions to be taken? There are no problems with keeping the server offline for some time.

Help with RAID drive replacement
The company I work for has a server with a bad hard drive and is running off what appears to have been the backup drive. How do I know if the system was set up for RAID? Also, if it was on RAID, could replacing the bad drive possibly erase the current drive? Hope I worded this right. Thanks in advance for any help.
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skyyskyy · 05-27-2010, 09:10 AM

I personally have never ran my prelude in a RAID config. but if i had 5 of them i would run them in RAID 0 and run low 7"s at the track all day.

bouckarooo · 05-27-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cena2020

I'm trying to rebuild a 4 disk RAID 5 array on a SATA perc 5i controller. One drive was apparently disconnected from the Raid array and left unconnected for some time. I pulled the drive out and formatted it, then tested it for errors. HDTune tells me the drive has no errors.

I had previously deleted the drive partition and attempted to rebuild the array, however, neither the perc controlled bios nor the dell openmanage software gave me the rebuild option. What am i missing to enable this task? Should the drive be formatted in any specific manner? left unformatted? partitioned? unpartitioned? or am i overlooking something else Right now the raid array shows up in Disk manager as a basic drive. I don't know what this means but the raid array manager doesn't show any backplane, which i noticed some of the perc 5i controllers have when i checked dell support pages.
OS is SBS 2003

RAID 5 Rebuild
I have a RAID 5 server with a failed hard disk. I'm not much into these kind of things but at present I have to perform the replacement / rebuild and I'm not so sure how. Can someone tell me the procedure. Can I shut down the server and insert the new disk? Can i just open the web bios and rebuild manually? Any other precautions to be taken? There are no problems with keeping the server offline for some time.

Help with RAID drive replacement
The company I work for has a server with a bad hard drive and is running off what appears to have been the backup drive. How do I know if the system was set up for RAID? Also, if it was on RAID, could replacing the bad drive possibly erase the current drive? Hope I worded this right. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Colocation Tampa

wtf??

rockitfuel · 05-27-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skyyskyy

I personally have never ran my prelude in a RAID config. but if i had 5 of them i would run them in RAID 0 and run low 7"s at the track all day.

That is preposterous! That config would get you high 10’s at best.

vainot4u · 05-27-2010, 02:05 PM

Eh RAID 5 is for wussies...go RAID 10 way better in the 1/4 mile...should be good for 8's or high 7's, plus if you blow your motor no worries as you have a second one!!