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Old 12-22-2004, 12:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Adding oil vs. changing oil

Since I add about 2-3 quarts of Mobil 1 every 3000 miles, would it be fine if I didn't completely change out the oil. Then I could just change the filter every once in awhile.

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Um, I'd like to see how you are going to change the oil filter without draining the oil first...
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Doesn't all the oil drain to the pan after it sits for awhile? I have an SH if it makes a difference since the filter isn't on the bottom.
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm not CERTAIN it can't be done, but I know that when you do an oil change, your supposed to change the filter after draining the oil... I always assumed it was to prevent spillage.
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i haven't traced out all the lines, but the filter is physically higher than the oil pan. therefore, you should be able to change out the filter and not drain the oil pan. unless for some reason lawas of physics are broken when it comes to oil filters.
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^^ So the entire oil system goes dry when the engine is turned off?
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Maybe I'll just see what happens.
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I'd be interrested to find out as well; just like every other 5th gen owner, I add oil on a regular basis as well.
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Maybe I'll just see what happens.

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Draining the oil also helps clear out any debris that might be in the oil.
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yes you can change the oil filter without changing the oil.

i changed my oil about 2 weeks ago and i didn'tget a honda oil filter because they were out of stock, so i used a cheap one but it had been playing on my mind that it could be doing damage and vtec didn't seem as strong.

so yesterday i bought a proper honda filter and stuck it on, the only oil that comes out is what is in the filter
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also, you can use the oil for much longer by sipmly topping off the crankcase. if you're changing the filter at the right interval the oil itself will last for a while.

this is one of the findings of that oilstudy that those guys did with mobil 1. TBN stayed high enough to keep using the oil for 18,000 miles when they were adding oil.
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also, you can use the oil for much longer by sipmly topping off the crankcase. if you're changing the filter at the right interval the oil itself will last for a while.

this is one of the findings of that oilstudy that those guys did with mobil 1. TBN stayed high enough to keep using the oil for 18,000 miles when they were adding oil.
Everyone's TBN will be different. Even if you run the same oil, you probably don't drive the same and won't have the same miles and condition of engine. I know I've run 9K and had them tell me my oil is fine (Blackstone labs) but I also ran 7K mi and they told me I had too much copper and that it should have been changed sooner. Similar oil just different driving conditions.
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I can take off the filter without it dripping.. I just let it sit there for a long time while it drains.
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I think you should have your motor checked if your burning 2-3 quarts every 3K miles bud
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I'd be interrested to find out as well; just like every other 5th gen owner, I add oil on a regular basis as well.
umm...i dont have to add oil on a regular basis. maybe its the way you drive.

you can change out the filter without drainng the pan, but about a half quart will come out with the filter. but changing the oil(like someone said earlier) is also to release the debris from normal wear. if you dont drain the oil from the pan, all that debris will build up and continue to circulate throughout your motor. causing premature engine wear. so just do it. it takes only about 15 mins after sitting.
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umm...i dont have to add oil on a regular basis. maybe its the way you drive.

you can change out the filter without drainng the pan, but about a half quart will come out with the filter. but changing the oil(like someone said earlier) is also to release the debris from normal wear. if you dont drain the oil from the pan, all that debris will build up and continue to circulate throughout your motor. causing premature engine wear. so just do it. it takes only about 15 mins after sitting.

Well, you're very lucky... h22a's are notorious for oil consumtion, and mine's no exception... Not a lot, but something I have to keep an eye on...
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Sinces this is oil related... I like to add to this

I using Mobil 1 Syn with Hamp oil filter... and it hasnt burn at all?

I abuse it onces in awhile?

the car has 104k
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I know it's better to change the oil, but it's getting freakin expensive. I wish I knew what was causing my oil consumption. I guess my rings are going out already with 85k on 'em. I'm just gonna swap in an f22b. Those don't burn oil, right?
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Ok.

If you H22Ax burns oil and you are forced to put make-up oil in all the time, then you are continuously refreashing the additives of the oil.

This is perferable to using oil in an engine that does not burn oil at an extended drain interval.

Interestingly, if you have a good oil filter, say a Mobil 1 oil filter, you will filter all the importantly harmful particles from the oil.

So, yes, you can leave the oil in the engine and only replace the filter while continuously topping off the oil.

I've done this for 10,000 miles and had excellent lab results.

The most critical thing is for you to add to the additive package by adding new oil.

Check out www.bobistheoilguy.com
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