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Old 07-24-2010, 07:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1st time Prelude owner. Japanese SiR

Yeah... so I just bought my 3rd Honda vehicle. I drove it home today. It is a 2000 (1999 in Japan) Prelude SiR. I live in Japan. I got it so cheap you would cry. Used cars are dirt cheap here dont ask me why. I got my prelude for only 3grand US. No problems with it. No accidents. That is just the way it is in Japan if you can shop around. Most people don't. This is the 2nd to last model they made. Dont as me why, they list the last model made in Japan as a 2000, so mine is a 1999. But in the USA it would be the 2000 model. It's fast. really fast. I am in love. I had an accord in college. Just bought a Honda Motorcycle. Honda is amazing. I know my next car will the s2000 after I done with this car. I am having a REALLY hard time finding parts for my car. They are EVERYWHERE in the USA. I only speak and read a little Japanese but I can get around the Japanese websites well enough. I can only find 2 CIA. what a joke. TWO!!!!
one is K and N that runs about 500 bucks. @#$@#$ that. The other is ZERO 1000. They seem to have a good rep in Japan, but there isnt much info about them. I would love some help finding parts in Japan. I will probably only keep the car for 2 years, so I don't want to put too much cash into. I don't want to have some fun with it. My friend is a huge car nut too, he just bought a 2001 B4 for 3,000 also. We want to have some fun modding our cars together on the weekends. I just drove the car off the lot today. I am going to add some iridium plugs soon, change the oil over to top of the line synthetic. Need new tires soon, so I will invest in some nice "racing" tires. The zero 1000 CAI says it only adds about 5 HP. what a bummer. I might add an exhaust but I am reading some actually LOWER your HP. Searching all the japanese website I havent seen anything at all about headers or any other parts. the only thing I can find are these 2 CAI.
Anyway. As a new prelude owner I would love any advice....

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Old 07-24-2010, 08:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well first off welcome to the site.please throw up some pics as soon as you can.as far as the intake and exhaust goes our preludes don't really respond well to bolt on parts alone.with a good free flowing exhaust and intake you are looking at a gain of maybe 5whp.if you want a decent gain look into a new header but as far as exhaust and intake goes just pick what looks purdy and sounds good to you instead of power gain since it will be minimal.
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my car looks sick.... Everything is 100% original EXCEPT the guy who owned it before lowered it. I don't know with what springs.... Not sure if that matters. this beauty is like 3 inches off the ground. My car jack wont even lift it high enough to get the tires off the ground. Whatever. It looks sweet. Silver. wing. I will post picks soon. I could not find 4ws ANYWHERE except for 1 accident same year. white. f that! If I was in the USA it would be really easy to mod this car... Here in Japan. its 1000000 times harder cause I don't speak great jap. My neighbor, white dude also, is a car freak. actually a mechanical engineer, he knows crazy @#$@# about cars and engines and owns a b4 Subaru. He wants to help out with mods. Something fun to do together. yeah... I dont think I will get much HP out of a intake, I think more than anything it will just be a fun project for us to work on. I found a great site that shows how to do it. they say to take the resonator out while your at it cause its pointless and just add mass... anyway. I am leaving japan in 2 years, PROBABLY, so don't want to put too much into the car. Just some fun mods and stuff I can learn from. already took out spare tire and ****... loaded with high octane... not to brag. but regular octane in japan is higher than high O in the USA. High O here is like racing **** back in the USA. wiki it!!! the USA has some of the lowest octane gas in the world. thats @#$$ED
my friend is from South Africa. I think min is 95. one question. I saw on a few sites that high end radiator caps increase pressure. Really?!?! is that really going to make a bit of difference. come on? I got to tell you. in college I had a 95 accord. I loved the car. Amazing!!!!! Here in Japan I had a Nissan Cube3. Not the one in the states. The previous gen. It was very Japanese and I wanted a Japanese only vehicle while I was here. I just bought a Honda Motorcycle. 250 V-twin Magna...yet again japan only. Amazing bike. Many say its the biggest 250cc bike made. The thing looks massive but its only 250cc. Love it!!!! God I love Honda. with out a doubt my next car will be a s2000. Honda seems like the most underrated car company around. I bought my 95 accord for 5 grand. I drove it for 2 years. I put it in the paper for 4.5. A guy called up the next day and offered me 5 grand for it. are you kidding me!?!?!? that is how good Honda's are!!!!
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Very nice.I just bought a bike myself but its slightly different than yours .if I was you I would ship that bad boy back to the US when you move.and no I wouldn't buy into that rad cap crap.
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well.... I was thinking about it. how cool would that be... but I have a little secret. I can drive a manual bike. but not a car. ahhhhhh. my car is an auto. I am learning how to drive a MT now, but what is the point in importing an AT prelude???? if it was MT I would put mad cash into this thing and import it. oh well. I am going to have my fun. get my manual license soon and just buy a s2000 when I get back to the states.
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Who cares if its an auto.take the money you would drop on an s2k and ship it here then convert it to a stick.then you will be the only person in the US with that car.not many people can say that.
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okay... I am slow sorry. BUT NOT AS SLOW AS THIS PRELUDE!!! ha ha ha. I posted a pic of my 'lude to my album. That is my bank in the background fyi. ATM's close in Japan around 8 or 9 pm.... so lame. But there is no weed to buy so I guess there is no reason to go the atm that late anyway. sorry college humor.... or is it????
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kidding? what kinda cash am I looking at converting it to a MT??? I could just sell it before I leave. Buy a s2000 here for dirt cheap like I did my prelude then export that. I am not too worried. I am just going to have fun with this beast for now and look at my options later. I have so much @@@@ to worry about in two years. go back to school? look for a job? marry my girl? etc.
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But there is no weed to buy so I guess there is no reason to go the atm that late anyway. sorry college humor.... or is it????
Did I mention I am going to be a cop in less than a year?
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fixed looks like a nice Prelude!


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Yeah... so I just bought my 3rd Honda vehicle. I drove it home today. It is a 2000 (1999 in Japan) Prelude SiR. I live in Japan. I got it so cheap you would cry. Used cars are dirt cheap here dont ask me why. I got my prelude for only 3grand US. No problems with it. No accidents. That is just the way it is in Japan if you can shop around. Most people don't. This is the 2nd to last model they made. Dont as me why, they list the last model made in Japan as a 2000, so mine is a 1999. But in the USA it would be the 2000 model. It's fast. really fast. I am in love. I had an accord in college. Just bought a Honda Motorcycle. Honda is amazing. I know my next car will the s2000 after I done with this car. I am having a REALLY hard time finding parts for my car. They are EVERYWHERE in the USA. I only speak and read a little Japanese but I can get around the Japanese websites well enough. I can only find 2 CIA. what a joke. TWO!!!!
one is K and N that runs about 500 bucks. @#$@#$ that. The other is ZERO 1000. They seem to have a good rep in Japan, but there isnt much info about them. I would love some help finding parts in Japan. I will probably only keep the car for 2 years, so I don't want to put too much cash into. I don't want to have some fun with it. My friend is a huge car nut too, he just bought a 2001 B4 for 3,000 also. We want to have some fun modding our cars together on the weekends. I just drove the car off the lot today. I am going to add some iridium plugs soon, change the oil over to top of the line synthetic. Need new tires soon, so I will invest in some nice "racing" tires. The zero 1000 CAI says it only adds about 5 HP. what a bummer. I might add an exhaust but I am reading some actually LOWER your HP. Searching all the japanese website I havent seen anything at all about headers or any other parts. the only thing I can find are these 2 CAI.
Anyway. As a new prelude owner I would love any advice....
Good observation:" I am reading some actually LOWER your HP"
Some aftermarket headers are actually knock offs of OEM headers with a little bling bling added to their appearance.

1: Tires YES: Best handling investment you can make. Also if your shocks are worn, a set of Tokico brand shocks, which is the supplier of shocks to companies like Honda , would be a nice addition.

King Motorsports Unlimited, Inc. - Tokico Illumina Series

2: CAI No: Your stock CAI intake is ecu controlled in such a way as to give good low rpm/mid torque and fuel economy by speeding up the air flow thru it by closing off an air input at low /mid rpms.At high rpms, a 2nd air way is opened up for good, non restrictive high rpm breathing. Aftermarket intakes are just good for making great noises that attract law enforcement and whose gains, if any, are the result of some kind of trade off.The OEM Type S intake can give some minor improvement to mid rpm torque while not effecting ecu air input control functions or top end power, but don't expect to much.

ecu input air control actuator:



Check out the links below;

Honda Prelude VTEC Enthusiast Site

JDM Prelude Type S Dynamic Air Intake Kit 220HP BB6 H22A S Spec

3: The 5th gen Prelude has a once refined true 4-2-1 header thats designed to give a good balance of low/mid and high rpm power.Their is nothing really to be gained by replacing it unless you are making other changes to your engine that would significantly change the air flow going to it or if you just want a header with some bling bling to it.

Shown below is the header that has been refined once going from the 4th to the 5th gen lude and for comparison purposes I provided a picture of the header from the low output 4th gen version Prelude.

4th gen low output model header and A pipe:




4th gen VTEC Prelude with a true 4-2-1 header:




5th gen Prelude with a true 4-2-1 header and a improved A pipe like the one on the JDM Type S Prelude with cylindrical instead of oval walls in its A pipe:





4: Fancy spark plugs and synthetic oil : No
Your Prelude high peformance H22a4 engine actually comes with a factory installed oil cooler that reduces the demand on the oil and todays ignition's have mega sparks and don't need the help of some fancy spark plug.

Prelude oil cooler:


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fixed looks like a nice Prelude!

Why are the rims going opposite directions?
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Robert, where did you buy your Type-S intake? I have been looking everywhere for one!
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Did I mention I am going to be a cop in less than a year?
come on... not to get too much off topic. I don't smoke. But I did. I am a teacher now. I think alcohol is 1000 times worse than weed. I think when you become a cop and you bust people for smoking weed you are wasting your time and tax payer dollars. As a teacher it is my obligation to uphold today's social stranded of zero tolerance of drugs so I do, but inside I believe it should be legal and taxed. As a cop you should know that alcohol will probably be behind half the calls and arrests you make. ok. thats my 2 cents. back to preluds.
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Why are the rims going opposite directions?
glad you pointed that out. Didn't notice that yet. guess they switched the tires at some point. like I said before I drove the car home for the first time yesterday.
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@SH DRIVER: thanks for the great info. you probably just saved me 200 bucks from wasting on a CAI. I got to say you deflated the air from my tires a little bit. I finally have a car worth modding a little and you tell me its too perfect already for bolt ons. What is your suggestions on worthy mods. I am not against doing a turbo, except it seems I need to then do the ecu, cams, etc, etc. I don't want to put that much into this car. Maybe 1000 bucks and stuff my friend and I can do on our own. suggestions? Those links you gave are sweet. I think it will be a worthy adventure to try and track those parts down. Shouldn't be too hard since I am already in Japan. Reading those links about the stock intakes just makes me love this car even more. Its the most advance FF in the world, isn't it also the fastest production FF too?

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let me ask another question. The car is due for an oil chance in about 1000 miles. I have no idea how well the previous owner kept the car. Should I go ahead and buy some engine cleaner, change the spark plugs, air filter, etc. I want flush my car out so to speak. I want it to feel and drive as new as possible. I am going to have this thing for 2 years. I don't want to wait 18 months to change plugs and air filter because that's what the numbers in the book say. I don't mind wasting a few bucks on my new car if it will make some difference. what oil do you recommend. synthetic a waste on this car?
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