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HaPpYfAcE · 08-17-2004, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ab3dj

from most reading i have done, 5th gen preludes run over 15 seconds in the quarter mile (around 15.8 to be exact) where the rsx runs a 15 second flat and the accord v6 runs a 14.5. i posted earlier that i'm not in a fifth gen prelude. again, if you can post up any documentation dis-proving me, i would love to see it where as i'm here for the info.

I've been told that if you run the 1/8th mile, you generally add 5 seconds to get your 1/4 mile time. i dunno how accurate that is, but someone can compare with their 1/8th mile times...

i've only had the chance to ride on an 1/8th mile. my car was totally stock...except as stated in the very first post...

i ran a 10.21 @ 70 mph as my best time. next time i go out to the car, i'll bring my time slips in and scan em...most of my times were around 10.3-10.5, but that was with a cone filter in place of the stock airbox. then i put the stock airbox back on for the hell of it and i ran a 10.2...good stuff.

since then, i've gotten my AEM V2 intake and the VAFC2. only thing i did on the vafc was enrich the fuel at vtec and above 4000 rpm....and tonight, i said fukkit cuz i was tired of runnin out of gas every couple of nights. ( i only put about a quarter/half tank in when i go to the gas station.)

ab3dj · 08-17-2004, 08:40 PM

so you're running low 15s? what did the accords do? the reason i did so much reading about the v6s is because i was being taunted by my friend (female) for months to race... i was skuurd.

HaPpYfAcE · 08-17-2004, 08:47 PM

well...i have a 5th gen and i raced an older V6 accord and pulled it hard....that was with the stock airbox on the car. who knows how i'll do with the AEM V2.

here's a tidbit....my buddy has an SE-R Spec-V with short ram intake and full exhaust (header, cat, cat-back exhaust), and lowering springs.
totally stock and with 87 octane, he pulled me hard. with 93 octane, he still pulled me, but not as hard. cracked the airbox, he only edges on me, and with the V2, we're together with each other...one pulls, then the other comes back slightly.

GaRn · 08-17-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HaPpYfAcE

I've been told that if you run the 1/8th mile, you generally add 5 seconds to get your 1/4 mile time. i dunno how accurate that is, but someone can compare with their 1/8th mile times...

i've only had the chance to ride on an 1/8th mile. my car was totally stock...except as stated in the very first post...

i ran a 10.21 @ 70 mph as my best time. next time i go out to the car, i'll bring my time slips in and scan em...most of my times were around 10.3-10.5, but that was with a cone filter in place of the stock airbox. then i put the stock airbox back on for the hell of it and i ran a 10.2...good stuff.

since then, i've gotten my AEM V2 intake and the VAFC2. only thing i did on the vafc was enrich the fuel at vtec and above 4000 rpm....and tonight, i said fukkit cuz i was tired of runnin out of gas every couple of nights. ( i only put about a quarter/half tank in when i go to the gas station.)

Hmm, thats not very accurate at all.. try this conversion, I made it up myself but it is VERY accurate for the most part.. granted you dont have crazy traction problems..

1/4 time = 1/8th time + (1/8th time/2) + x

fwd W/ traction issues(ONLY with traction problems), x = .4
awd, x = .6
else, x = .5

HaPpYfAcE · 08-17-2004, 08:52 PM

so would i add 'x' at all? i don't have traction issues....at any rate...this is definitely a physics problem. i'll do my best to figure it out.

using acceleration...i have values for half the distance, so the full distance will take a certain amount of time....ha....figure that one out.

that would assume that acceleration is a constant, which....may be not true in the case of a driver operated machine....

well...with your equation, my 1/4 mile time would be somewhere from 15.3 to 15.8....i really think i'd be close to a 15....gained somethin with the V2, so i think that my 1/8th mile times are lower now, as well.

GaRn · 08-18-2004, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HaPpYfAcE

so would i add 'x' at all? i don't have traction issues....at any rate...this is definitely a physics problem. i'll do my best to figure it out.

using acceleration...i have values for half the distance, so the full distance will take a certain amount of time....ha....figure that one out.

that would assume that acceleration is a constant, which....may be not true in the case of a driver operated machine....

well...with your equation, my 1/4 mile time would be somewhere from 15.3 to 15.8....i really think i'd be close to a 15....gained somethin with the V2, so i think that my 1/8th mile times are lower now, as well.

I just came up with it one day and it seemed to work, I have tested on many figures and times people actually run and it seems to work.. just add .5 to yours..

a 10 flat in the 1/8th is usually around 15.5

at the 1/8th mile track where I live 03 Cobra's usually run 8.1 to 8.2 with an excellent driver, and that equals to around a 12.7ish, which what they mostly run in the 1/4(stock 03+ cobra's).. LT1 fbody's(stock) run around 9 at the 1/8 mile track, which is around a 14 flat, which is also consistant with what they run in the 1/4 usually..

so the littlel conversion I came up with is pretty accurate, I have tested it with alot of numbers and seems to work pretty good down to 10 sec 1/4 mile cars.. after that its a little off, and even 1/10th of a sec. on that fast of a car is a big difference.. Also the equation doesnt factor in traction/bogging at the launch, how good the driver is, etc..

granted the driver is great and you shift at the right time, you can pretty much get it right if you modify the last value x, which is usually .5, to suite that.. usually doesnt sway much more than .1 second..

geerboy69 · 08-18-2004, 11:23 AM

ok so post some documentation. I've never heard of a accord V6 running a quarter mile in 14.5??? Anybody else?? I'm not saying that FORSURE i'm right but i'm not believing that one. Direct me to some legitimate web site that documents that like: car & driver, edmunds, any other magazine you can think of thats reputable.

I just know my personal experiences, and there is actually a video of a v6 accord getting walked if i'm not mistaken. I'll do a search and see if i can find it for you.

GaRn · 08-18-2004, 12:16 PM

which v6 accord are you talkin about? The last gen 3.2 ran the 1/4 in the low 16's.. only had 190 hp and weigh around 3200+

My moms 3.2tl will run a 15.4 and weighs 3400, having 225 hp..

general times of course...

geerboy69 · 08-18-2004, 10:14 PM

I'm not saying that Accords run that low member ab3dj is ask him????

I think they're slow personally

Hadoken · 08-20-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HaPpYfAcE

see...i'm not part of that crowd....i heard the whole two stage vtec goin on and i was pullin it when we were both in a gear and stomping it....not when SHE or i were changing gears....

those damn women drivers... no wonder you won

HaPpYfAcE · 08-20-2004, 02:31 PM

hahahahahahahahaha....werd....and later on i found out that she lied to everyone about who won....and when i said somethin, she wouldn't back it up with some real RSX-S K20 power!! haha....w/e

alvanderp · 08-27-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by geerboy69

ok so post some documentation. I've never heard of a accord V6 running a quarter mile in 14.5??? Anybody else?? I'm not saying that FORSURE i'm right but i'm not believing that one. Direct me to some legitimate web site that documents that like: car & driver, edmunds, any other magazine you can think of thats reputable.

I just know my personal experiences, and there is actually a video of a v6 accord getting walked if i'm not mistaken. I'll do a search and see if i can find it for you.

1st-6th Gen accord = slow
7th Gen V6 MT Coupe = fast, heres your "legitimate resource," Its mid page, I would assume the auto or sedan would be slower.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

ab3dj · 08-31-2004, 05:48 PM

thank you. i knew i read it somewhere but couldn't find it.

edit: that is one beautiful 5th gen in your sig!

geerboy69 · 09-01-2004, 10:20 AM

Alright I retract my previous statement. I made a bad assumtion. I did not consider the new ones. I was only considering the past generations that was my bad.

The new ones are pretty slick. I knew that I just wasn't thinking.

Tresch · 10-01-2004, 04:46 PM

I believe he's probably talking about the new V6 accord coupes with the 6 speed manual transmission and 240 crank horsepower and 212 ft/lbs of torque and a curb weight of 3300 lbs.