WHO would win??-- Integra GSR VTEC vs. 4th Gen USDM VTEC - Honda Prelude Forum

preludatic · 08-03-2004, 08:44 PM

Ok this kid in town just bought a GSR with all these body mods done.... lexxus headlight conversion, blah blah blah.... Well he's talkin a big game.. and dissin on my H22.. I wanna show him wasup... but im afraid to lose!! But i'd LOVE to shut him up

I "hear" he has aem cams, and headers/exhaust. Idk what brand. So far thats all i know.

I have a short ram ractive intake, and catback exhaust... what do u guys think?

EDIT: he has dc headers.

h22 bb6 · 08-03-2004, 08:46 PM

You mean AEM cam gears, right? Unless they're tuned, its probably a worthless mod.

IMO, sounds like a drivers race if both are manual.

preludatic · 08-03-2004, 08:47 PM

I am a good driver!

his last car was a ford escort

manual.... sooooo.... im sure u can tell how well he drives stick

preludatic · 08-03-2004, 08:49 PM

4th Gen VTEC:
Base Engine Size: 2.2 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 190 hp Max Horsepower: 6800 rpm
Torque: 158 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 5500 rpm

GSR Motor:
Base Engine Size: 1.8 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 170 hp Max Horsepower: 7600 rpm
Torque: 128 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 6200 rpm

TimeRacer · 08-03-2004, 09:01 PM

It's a drivers race it'll be won or lost on the launch and gear shifts. If we're talking about a "freeway battle" then you'd have the advantage.

azjs · 08-04-2004, 01:21 AM

I've had first hand experience with a teg with the same kind of mods as those above - and I'll let you know now, you will lose because of gear ratio and p/w ratio. I've done standing and rolling starts, and also drops to 2nd gear on the highway, and have been pulled on over and over again. Possible to finally get past top of 4th/5th gear, but I'm not insane...

Or maybe I'm just a crap driver

-az

Dragazn · 08-04-2004, 01:48 AM

Okay i have a 5th gen and I have race more deadly then you GSR in hatch with all bolts on I/E/H and i kill it like 2car length not even one came near, and i know theos driver drive good. You will win as long as you get a good launch and a good reaction times and don't fall of vtec, i take off at 5k vtec kick in since i got vafc. moreover, if that GSR have cams then might be another story if not then you should be okay

ummm yea · 08-04-2004, 08:07 AM

here is a clip of me racing a GSR a while back..but i have a 5th gen (i was told a bit slower than 4th due to weight and gear ratio or somthing like that):

http://web.njit.edu/~kct2/prelude%20...gra%20gsr.mpeg

this was when i only had CAI and exhaust

i think the gsr had i/h/e and maybe some other minor work like pullies, ignition or something but nothing to drastic

at the time of the race i will admit i wasn't the very best driver since i pretty much just got the car and learned to drive stick on it...and i can also tell you that the driver of the gsr WAS a better driver than me and might still be since i don't go to races anymore...

i also lost the to the gsr in a previous race by about a half a car due to a super crappy launch but i started to pull at the end..but i didn't get that on film

hope this helps clear things up

SlowSi · 08-04-2004, 12:11 PM

Looks like you won anyway, hehe.

PreludeRacer023 · 08-04-2004, 01:43 PM

a drivers race?? um ok....if you say so, i could hang and sometimes beat GSRs with my h23....most people i know with h22s dont have any problems with GSRs...the type Rs maybe a better challenge, and who said the GSRs gear ratios would allow it to win??...just race him...you shouldnt have any problems whatsoever

SlowSi · 08-05-2004, 08:07 PM

Stock for stock, ITR will win fairly easily considering both are decent drivers. But it would be a tough race.

rentien · 08-05-2004, 08:09 PM

gsr i think would lose, but be close to h22 lude, type-r would beat h22 lude equal drivers assumed of course

PreludeRacer023 · 08-05-2004, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rentien

gsr i think would lose, but be close to h22 lude, type-r would beat h22 lude equal drivers assumed of course

i beat, or stay dead even with type Rs who have the same mods i do..i/h/e/ecu/cam gears...a JDM h22 4th gen will run just as fast stock for stock with good drivers as an ITR

JaXx4k · 08-06-2004, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by preludatic

4th Gen VTEC:
Base Engine Size: 2.2 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 190 hp Max Horsepower: 6800 rpm
Torque: 158 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 5500 rpm

GSR Motor:
Base Engine Size: 1.8 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 170 hp Max Horsepower: 7600 rpm
Torque: 128 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 6200 rpm

the weight of both car is a total different.... i ran a GSR heads up w/mugen exhaust,mugen headers, SRI. n i dog him.. but it's a very close race... drivin a ford doesnt mean he cant drive.... sounds lik u talkin more BS then he is... lolz...

all im sayin u should be scare of GSR... they aint no B16... GSR motor in a hatch wil DOG u....

PreludeRacer023 · 08-06-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JaXx4k

the weight of both car is a total different.... i ran a GSR heads up w/mugen exhaust,mugen headers, SRI. n i dog him.. but it's a very close race... drivin a ford doesnt mean he cant drive.... sounds lik u talkin more BS then he is... lolz...

all im sayin u should be scare of GSR... they aint no B16... GSR motor in a hatch wil DOG u....

what the hell are you talking about??? B18 in a hatch....were talking about an integra, not a hatch, and a GSR with a few bolt ons is no match for a 4th gen prelude vtec with bolt ons...a b18 hatch will dog you..ha...i can run with those and if you really wanted to switch the subject there, how about running an h22 hatch....try to stick to the original question

rentien · 08-06-2004, 11:52 AM

well personally, beucase you have a "freak" motor and run 13's with just bolt ons and chippin' ... YOU DON"T COUNT YOU LUCKY BASTARD!!

for us people with normal h22's... i think we should be rightfully scared of gsr's

ummm yea · 08-06-2004, 02:24 PM

bottom line is if you have a CLEAN you will beat a gsr...you don't have to have a PErfect run..jus a clean one...

but if you mess up and the gsr doesn't, the race is up for grabs...

just don't mess up..

PreludeRacer023 · 08-06-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rentien

well personally, beucase you have a "freak" motor and run 13's with just bolt ons and chippin' ... YOU DON"T COUNT YOU LUCKY BASTARD!!

for us people with normal h22's... i think we should be rightfully scared of gsr's

i know of quite a few ludes and accords with jdm h22s that have run low 14s high 13s with bolt ons....my car isnt that freakish..peace

rentien · 08-06-2004, 04:00 PM

but but... thats faster then an s2k.... you get faster then an s2k with JDM H22a and bolt ons?

SlowSi · 08-06-2004, 08:07 PM

The original question was can he beat him in his USDM H22A, not a JDM H22a.