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Old 08-09-2010, 11:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What does it take to beat an srt4?

I'm just about to finish my build, I'm just being bored waiting for the machine shop to finish my headwork. In the mean time I've been wondering what I'm looking at as far as cars I can beat on the street, most importantly that stupid turbo neon

So far my mods are as follows:
Skunk2 Pro2 cams
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P28 w/ Hondata s300
PSpec Adjustable Shifter
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and some other random little stuff I cant think of atm...

I'm thinking I could get about 230 whp off this but I'm not sure.
Anyways could I stomp an srt finally?
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Fully built head (pro 2's) + stock bottom end, aem v2, dsm blue tops, walbro 255, 2.5" exhaust = 153.1whp lmao


Update: made 149.7whp with the same setup but new plugs, plug wires, type s pistons, new bearings, and a colder/more humid day...wtf yo
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Whats the point?

Win or lose, he tells his buddies and anyone else who wasn't there that he beat a heavily modded Prelude. You could do the same.

An unverified win is as worthless as a promise from a liar, and unverified is about all you'll get from a street race.
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What does it take to beat an srt4?

1: Be in the Preludes habitat which would be like a back winding road.
2: You have to be someone who knows how to drive.

If you want to drag race you need to sell your Prelude and get a Mustang because the Prelude is a geared to be a road car and not a drag car.

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What does it take to beat an srt4?

1: Be in the Preludes habitat which would be like a back winding road.
2: You have to be someone who knows how to drive.
What does it take for you to shut the **** up?

Seriously, your generalizations count for ****. "Be someone who knows how to drive".
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there is no point

I don't know why people have a goal to beat (insert car here). It's stupid and a useless goal.
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Thats my goal because I spent way more than i should have on this build and it would make me feel a little better to know what group of cars I'm going to be able to roll with. I dont necessarily mean just the srt4, my real question is what kinda cars can i keep up with?
And this is just a "sitting-here-bored" post, if nobody answered me, I wouldnt have been surprised. I can always just be patient and find out for myself in the next two weeks
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you can keep up with all the metro geos.
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Lets just say this, you don't dump a lot of money in a prelude and expect big gains.

If you need to jusitify your purchases then you should just stop now. You can run with other preludes and less cars like cobalts (unless it's an SS).

It's a 20 year old engine and at least 10 year old platform. It will show it's age.
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It's a 20 year old engine and at least 10 year old platform. It will show it's age.
The Prelude is not as obsolete as you seem to infer.
First lets look at the engine. The 5th gen Prelude has an engine that puts out 91 hp/ liter . This is a higher higher output/ liter then any Honda or Acura N/A engine presently being produced at this time. Its output is even higher then the the Nissan 2010 370z's 90 hp/liter output for example and it does it while maintaining a broad power band. As far as the suspension is concerned, here is what Honda is presently using on its better cars.

Front suspension Independent double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Rear suspension Independent multi-link with coil springs and stabilizer bar

WOW :Its the same set up as the 5th gen Prelude.That means the Prelude's suspension set up is current.Much of the improvement in auto handling performance since the Prelude was built as come from advancements in tire technology and present day Preludes of coarse have these newer tires on which in effect upgrades the cars performance capabilities.

Also their has not been to date a technological improvement on a FWD car of the ATTS technology used on the SH Prelude.So for that reason the SH Preludes FWD ATTS system is still in effect state of the art.

Its not the performance of the Prelude thats the problem .
The problem comes from people using the car as a stop light racer and that not what the car's engine(no low rpm torque) and gearing (tall 1st and 2nd gearing) is set up to excel at.Its a car with superior handling qualities that seems to always be at the right rpm range on corner exit enabling the engine to deliver (Its all about keeping it on the cam) when driven by a competent driver.
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^It's difficult to respect the argument of someone who doesn't know when to use there/their/they're.

Face it, fvcktard. What once was a modern (and probably a bit overpriced) sport compact is now a high school kids first car. It's underpowered, and can be had for next to nothing.

The biggest accomplishment of atts was that it put the Prelude into scca classes where it couldn't compete. Get over yourself, douche.

ps. You're an even bigger idiot if you believe Honda's 200hp claim. Try closer to 165ish.
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blah blah blah SH Driver you fail just because you're an idiot.

Oh look lets compare things.

4 tires
1 steering wheel

Damn this must mean all cars are the same and yet all suck!!
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Why does your "build" include a junk header? I would really suggest buying a real power gaining header for your build. If your cheap just get the hytech rep, you will notice a solid difference over the dc ****.
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i have beat quite a few this is just one vid
both of us are on street tires
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YouTube - n/a prelude vs srt4.AVI

i have beat quite a few this is just one vid
both of us are on street tires

Your reaction time off the line was way better then his and gave you a big lead from the start. It just goes to show that KNOWING HOW TO DRIVE, and not just whining about your car like a little girl, can in many cases make a big difference.
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Your reaction time off the line was way better then his and gave you a big lead from the start. It just goes to show that KNOWING HOW TO DRIVE, and not just whining about your car like a little girl, can in many cases make a big difference.
yes that is true
but at the drag strip your time does not start intell you move
so my time was a 13.8 and his was a 14.3 or something around there
it just looks like i beat by alot more than i did,,,but even if we would
of went strait up i still would of beat him
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yes that is true
but at the drag strip your time does not start intell you move
so my time was a 13.8 and his was a 14.3 or something around there
it just looks like i beat by alot more than i did,,,but even if we would
of went strait up i still would of beat him

good stuff h22 is a good engine ppl hate on it so much now a days just because everyone has a B series I have an h22 in my eg hatch gsr an b20 are slow compared to h22
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The Prelude is not as obsolete as you seem to infer.
First lets look at the engine. The 5th gen Prelude has an engine that puts out 91 hp/ liter . This is a higher higher output/ liter then any Honda or Acura N/A engine presently being produced at this time.
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to clear this up.

I am not disagreeing with you that the prelude is not a drag car, but this fact is simply wrong. When the S2000 came out, it had a 2.0 liter with 240 hp. It held that record until overthrown by a Ferrari I believe.
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This is a super old thread. This reminds me I am curious why everyone hates so hard on SH DRIVER. His posts never seem mean spirited or anything so not sure why he got so much hate. I have noticed it from reading old threads.

SH DRIVER will post something and then a few people will say "you are a ****ing idiot SH DRIVER" I mean, damn, harsh.

edit: Nevermind, I read more of his posts. Here is a good thread explaining What order should i mod my Lude?
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This is a super old thread. This reminds me I am curious why everyone hates so hard on SH DRIVER. His posts never seem mean spirited or anything so not sure why he got so much hate. I have noticed it from reading old threads.

SH DRIVER will post something and then a few people will say "you are a ****ing idiot SH DRIVER" I mean, damn, harsh.

edit: Nevermind, I read more of his posts. Here is a good thread explaining What order should i mod my Lude?
If he is Robert Taylor or some**** like that, then he gets this treatment on every forum he posts. I guess it's because he loves Prelude SH over the base model while the rest of the luders love the base over the SH.

when you are the only one with a different opinion of course you're gonna provoke pitchforks and torches. What the hell does he expect?
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