Well this was a few days ago.. not to long ..
But I was coming home from school while a silver 6G hatch cought my eyes... with CTR lip all around and some nice racing heart CP-8 .. the light just turn red so I was thinking to my self this car might be a crappy DX lets have some fun..Unfortunately I was wrong, light turn green we both punch it .. We were dead even until third thats when he pull like a mother ****er... I saw his nice looking tail lights and he totally rape my ass by 4 car. Then when I cought him at another light and I asked him what engine. He told me it was a b18c5 with some minor mods..
Geez I kinda want a 6G hatch and drop a b18c5 motor
thats what u get for thinkin it might b a crappy DX. besides B16s are way overrated. the only thing that makes them fast is the lower gears in the tranny.
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99 civic EX, GSR transplant, Type R cams, Type R ECU, WEAPON R intake, APEXi exhaust, DC 421 1 piece header, APEXi VAFC, AEM cam gears +4/-1, 18 degrees ignition, a true 4 inch drop, 00 SI guages and wheels 14.502@ 93
UPDATE MARCH: JUN TYPE 3 cams, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, JUN cam gears, B16 head, JUN ULTRALIGHT FLYWHEEL, KAAZ LSD, EXEDY clutch
Originally posted by hondaatwsu thats what u get for thinkin it might b a crappy DX. besides B16s are way overrated. the only thing that makes them fast is the lower gears in the tranny.
Man you couldnt tell it was a hyrbid at all.. and plus where I live everyone is mostly all show.. but he sure handed my ass back to me good LOL...
well tell me how the hell u do tell a hybrid from a regular POS? i didnt know there was some secret formula, haha.
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99 civic EX, GSR transplant, Type R cams, Type R ECU, WEAPON R intake, APEXi exhaust, DC 421 1 piece header, APEXi VAFC, AEM cam gears +4/-1, 18 degrees ignition, a true 4 inch drop, 00 SI guages and wheels 14.502@ 93
UPDATE MARCH: JUN TYPE 3 cams, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, JUN cam gears, B16 head, JUN ULTRALIGHT FLYWHEEL, KAAZ LSD, EXEDY clutch
Originally posted by hondaatwsu thats what u get for thinkin it might b a crappy DX. besides B16s are way overrated. the only thing that makes them fast is the lower gears in the tranny.
How are they overrated? They make 160hp and they do what 160hp should do. You put a B16 in a 1800lbs car and it's lights out for any ITRs or 2200lbs B18C5 hybrids. Am I right or wrong?
I don't understand why you think that they are overrated. Maybe you meant that the Si is overrated but that's wrong too. It does what it's supposed to do for a car with that weight and power; run the 1/4 mile in about 15 secs. That is by no means fast IMO, but maybe you think it is?
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1/4 mile: 15.1 @90mph at ATCO Raceway
the 2000 si run the same 1/4 mile as a 2000 gs-r ..Si are overrated? I think not.. and Plus once I boost up im gonna go hunt that hatch down and give him a good view of my si tail lights
alright i guess i was a little vague on the B16. basically they suck, how does that sound?, and i mean in a new SI coupe. they have no torque, but the HP is there. with the lower gear ratio in the tranny thats the only reason it hangs with a GSR that has torque. i really could care less what a 1st gen B16 does in a CRX cause i know they barely pull 14s. b4 my current mods i was pullin 14.5 in a 2600lb coupe. get a NA B16 to hang with that. u guys can get offended all u want but basically B16s suck. B16 this, B16 that, torque is what gets cars moving which we all know B16s have none.
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99 civic EX, GSR transplant, Type R cams, Type R ECU, WEAPON R intake, APEXi exhaust, DC 421 1 piece header, APEXi VAFC, AEM cam gears +4/-1, 18 degrees ignition, a true 4 inch drop, 00 SI guages and wheels 14.502@ 93
UPDATE MARCH: JUN TYPE 3 cams, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, JUN cam gears, B16 head, JUN ULTRALIGHT FLYWHEEL, KAAZ LSD, EXEDY clutch
Originally posted by hondaatwsu alright i guess i was a little vague on the B16. basically they suck, how does that sound?, and i mean in a new SI coupe. they have no torque, but the HP is there. with the lower gear ratio in the tranny thats the only reason it hangs with a GSR that has torque. i really could care less what a 1st gen B16 does in a CRX cause i know they barely pull 14s. b4 my current mods i was pullin 14.5 in a 2600lb coupe. get a NA B16 to hang with that. u guys can get offended all u want but basically B16s suck. B16 this, B16 that, torque is what gets cars moving which we all know B16s have none.
You mean you were running 14.5 with a GS-R transplant alone? I'm calling Bull**** on that one. That setup would only be good for very high 14s at best and low 15s most of the time.
And you seem to believe that the B18C1 is a torque monster. HAHAHA!!! Wooooo!!!! 128lb/fts!!! Yeah...that oughta take care of them LS1s right??? Yeah right.
Get with the program dude. The B18c1 doesn't make a whole lot more torque than the B16a. It's still torqueless. Yup. Dual stage intake manifold and all, extra .2l of displacement...it's still ****ing torqueless. You still need to rev all the way to 8000rpms to pull on the soccer mom in her minivan. Yet you still ***** about the B16s lack of torque. WTF is your problem?
Ask them V8 domestic owners to drive your car and they'll tell you how torqueless it still is. I'm not saying the B16a has torque because it doesn't. But the fact that you think the B18c1's torque is THAT much better is quite funny to me.
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1/4 mile: 15.1 @90mph at ATCO Raceway
if you want to see a b16 in a crx go watch my video of me vs the crx. The SI is a good car with a good driver. you have to luanch high to compensate for the low torque. I'm sorry none of us standard honda acura owners are "torque monsters" without some sort of supercharger or turbo.
obviously no honda has torque, but when ppl always talk about the B16 like its gods gift to hondas it makes me laugh. yeah V8s have major torque. LS1s, screw them, i can take em. 14.502, so ya dont believe it huh. i have a bunch of 14.5 passes with that setup in my coupe. so u can just suck it, and yes that is PRE JUN equipped. ur just mad cause u have a weak ass B16 SI. could u pull out a good time without that tranny? i think not. post some more soon.
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99 civic EX, GSR transplant, Type R cams, Type R ECU, WEAPON R intake, APEXi exhaust, DC 421 1 piece header, APEXi VAFC, AEM cam gears +4/-1, 18 degrees ignition, a true 4 inch drop, 00 SI guages and wheels 14.502@ 93
UPDATE MARCH: JUN TYPE 3 cams, titanium retainers, dual valve springs, JUN cam gears, B16 head, JUN ULTRALIGHT FLYWHEEL, KAAZ LSD, EXEDY clutch
Originally posted by hondaatwsu LS1s, screw them, i can take em. 14.502, so ya dont believe it huh. i have a bunch of 14.5 passes with that setup in my coupe
i don't think he's going to reply for that one part alone. I've never seen an LS1 run a 14.5 while trying, i think its about as hard to run a 14.5 in an LS1 as it is to run a 13.5 in a stock lude Even a bone stock auto runs a 13.7 without doing jack but hitting the gas pedal. I saw a girl do this, shes not a racer but she has an auto LS1 Trans AM and was at the track with a bunch of her guy friends so please, don't give me that crap where you can take an LS1 with a 14.5 timeslip, its just going to turn this post into a huge flame of stupidity.
Not to add to the fire but I had a friend who add a 94 GSR With just a C/A/I and ran 14.7-14.8 consistantly. (But keep in mind all he had was the dash and a passenger seat.) I belive those engines were alot faster than the ones that they throw in there now due to the LEV issue.
But a car my other friend has now which is rare is the del sol with the b16 DOHC VTEC. I dont remember what year it is but it will fly. So depending on what body you have a 160 HP B16 can fly If you know what you are doing.
Once I read that I just chose not to bother with it. Only a true idiot would think he can take a LS1 with a 14.5...
But to his defense, he did say he ran 14.5 before he modded the B18C1, which I think is still Bull****!
Well if u want to call bullsh*t go ahead but I was there and he ran 14.5 2 times last August at the Northwest Nationals in Kent, WA. He also ran quite a few 14.7's, 14.8's, and 14.9's. Those were with Nitto Drag Radials and the only engine mods to the car were I/H/E/ITR Cams, AEM gears, and a V-AFC and keep in mind that none of his setup was dyno-tuned and this is with full interior and he definitely has the slips to back it up. Seen them with my own eyes. Talk sh*t all you want but he ran those times and the car is quite a bit quicker now with his new mods. And as far as I'm concerned, the B16 is a great platform to begin with but not in the car it was available in in 99 and 00. I love the new SI's and think they are alot of fun to drive but the B16 is just not enough to get that car moving quickly from a dead stop. I was able to beat the only 2 SI's I raced before my motor swap with only I/H/E. Granted both of them were on the street but both of them knew what was going on and I just took them off the line and by the time 3rd gear was over I still had both of them by 3-4 car lengths. I have to admit that they were walking me but still they lost bad. Later.
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