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Old 02-05-2006, 01:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Raced: GSR . ITR . 4TH GEN

Well, I never got around racing that Ep3 I was talking about earlier.

But I did race this red 4th gen and lost at about 1 car. Not sure what he had, but it seem like he did have more "things" than me. I didn't expect to smoke anyone because I only have iceman intake, mugen header and cutout

Then I raced a ITR which seemed "mediumly" modded and lost by 1 car again.

Then this GSR with supposedly "Type R Internals" wanted to race for money, but I said no then smoked him by 2-3 cars. But I'm pretty sure he was "trying" to hustle me by letting me win the first time then racing second time and actually trying.

Whatever, it was fun. And I think I'm going to get a VAFC tuned, and maybe minimods and see how I do
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get a phearable ECU. pretty sure it's compatible with VAFC as well so if you grab on and then add a tuned VAFC on top.. you're pretty golden as far as management goes.
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you are gonna use a phearable ecu or any OBDI tunable ecu, go with a REAL program and not some bs vafc.

nice race tho i guess.
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If you are gonna use a phearable ecu or any OBDI tunable ecu, go with a REAL program and not some bs vafc.
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or you could just not buy into the hype. why spend a fortune on ecu's and tuning if you're only lightly modded and N/A anyways?

how far do you want to go with mods? If you're just doing I/H/E and maybe a touch elsewhere but not much... phearable is 175 bucks .. then toss on a VAFC. You're not going to obtain some magical new power on your setup by breaking your wallet on the latest greatest high-end tuning stuff when you don't plan to build the car to utilize it's capabilities.

I myself am only doing bolt-ons and will maybe run a phearable and nothing else. All I need..

Are you going to spend THAT much just so you can pull a tiny bit harder on that integra down the block?
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Man, I am so sick right now. 102 degrees.

Anyways, on topic. I don't really want to do that much as for management because since I sold my crower stage 2 cams about a month ago bewcause I didn't want to "do so much" as far as upgrading the valvetrain/engine management/etc, I just want to do simple mods.

As far as the phearable, I looked it up and I found one post that mentioned that using only the phearable ECU actually gave him automatic gains. And I was wondering if I switch from OBD2 to phearable OBD1, will I need some kind of harness to attach it to my car?

Since it is cheaper than a VAFC + Tuning + OBD2 to 1 Harness, I guess just getting a phearable ECU would be the best bet correct?
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Man, I am so sick right now. 102 degrees.

Anyways, on topic. I don't really want to do that much as for management because since I sold my crower stage 2 cams about a month ago bewcause I didn't want to "do so much" as far as upgrading the valvetrain/engine management/etc, I just want to do simple mods.

As far as the phearable, I looked it up and I found one post that mentioned that using only the phearable ECU actually gave him automatic gains. And I was wondering if I switch from OBD2 to phearable OBD1, will I need some kind of harness to attach it to my car?

Since it is cheaper than a VAFC + Tuning + OBD2 to 1 Harness, I guess just getting a phearable ECU would be the best bet correct?
you need a conversion harness.. phearable can include one for $100 or you can find one on ebay. Plug and play.
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or you could just not buy into the hype. why spend a fortune on ecu's and tuning if you're only lightly modded and N/A anyways?

how far do you want to go with mods? If you're just doing I/H/E and maybe a touch elsewhere but not much... phearable is 175 bucks .. then toss on a VAFC. You're not going to obtain some magical new power on your setup by breaking your wallet on the latest greatest high-end tuning stuff when you don't plan to build the car to utilize it's capabilities.

I myself am only doing bolt-ons and will maybe run a phearable and nothing else. All I need..

Are you going to spend THAT much just so you can pull a tiny bit harder on that integra down the block?
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phearable ecu = 175
obd conversion = 75
vafcII = ~175
tuning = 125 for an hour
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phearable ecu = 175
Crome = Free
obd conversion = 75
Tuning = 150-175 for an hour
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less expensive and a better program. His car will be better since he can idependently control timing and a hell of alot more fuel values that he can get tuned. With a vafc, you really dont know how much timing is being advance or retarded since it is just a side effect of messing with it.
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but hey, dont listen to me, i have no idea what im talking about.
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^ You went with the phearable ecu + crome right? How was the dyno numbers compared to your base numbers?
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^ You went with the phearable ecu + crome right? How was the dyno numbers compared to your base numbers?
cant compare my numbers when i hit the dyno. That was with my old motor, the one that didnt hold compression in 3 cylinders. Still made 162whp . Even with that horrible motor, i picked up like 8whp. My base run was 155whp if i remember correctly. I'm sure the power gain would have been better with a healthy motor like the one i have now.

i originally had a phearable ecu. It got burnt up in an unfortune electrical surge.
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Is there a site I can check out to see who in the nation tunes Crome? Is it similiar to Neptune where there are only like a few in the nation who can tune it?

I think this is the route I'm going with even though I have ATTS.
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Is there a site I can check out to see who in the nation tunes Crome? Is it similiar to Neptune where there are only like a few in the nation who can tune it?

I think this is the route I'm going with even though I have ATTS.
www.tunewithcrome.com

its nothing like neptune.
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so Mr. AllMotorBB6

how much do you expect me to gain from just getting a phearable ecu, with no crome.
does the amount I gain depend on how many modifications I have? I currently have intake, header and electronic cut out, and hope to gain another 10whp.
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so Mr. AllMotorBB6

how much do you expect me to gain from just getting a phearable ecu, with no crome.
does the amount I gain depend on how many modifications I have? I currently have intake, header and electronic cut out, and hope to gain another 10whp.
when you receive the ecu, all it is gonna have on it is a basemap. A basemap is only there to get your from point A to point B until you get tuned. You will more than likely run a little rich as a safeguard against detonation. Just depends on which basemap he puts in there. There is only so much that tuning can do. Once you hit that threshold, its gonna take more mods to make more power..then another tune to optimize those mods.
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east bay, far from you, somewhat
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woohoo go fourth gen!! *runs and hides* hehe j/p nice racing.
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