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Old 12-14-2004, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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prelude vs grand am

This girl in my car club owns an 01 grand am ram air GT. she has a cold air intake, dual exhaust, etc. she swears up and down that she can beat preludes all day long. now mine isn't that fast *intake header exhaust* but I think even though it's basically a stock prelude,*97 SH* I should walk her. I can't ever get her to race though. it's always a sat. night when we get together, and there is an abundance of cops cruising around. she also thinks a newer cougar *V6* with intake and exhaust can walk me. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see it. what do you guys think.
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have 2 friends with V6 GT's both packing I/E/other minor crap. Both run 15.3x at the track. Drivers race I suppose, with the edge going to you.

The cougar I wouldn't worry about, I race one every morning to work, the guy in the office next to me drives a 5 speed. Not even close.

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Don't race and save face....cuz i dont know about ur prelude but mine is slow as hell......
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hah Cougars...those cars are funny
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Well, cant guarantee, but Im pretty sure shes wrong. Grand ams weigh bout 50lbs more. And I dont think the put out much more hp. Honestly, id be cryin if you didnt beat her. Ive driven a 2000 Grand Prix GTP (Supercharged). Moderately fast, definately good response cause of the sc, but not as fast as the lude. Im sorry but a cheap american sports sedan vs a Japanese sport compact lude, I dont think so. As for the cougar. Crack that **** like it were an egg man. My x-roomate got the xr version (basically a gt) and ya it sucks. Cougars = suck. Just look up the stats on the Grand Am on the net. Stock Gt puts out like 170 hp and 200 lb-ft torque. "0-60 in less than 8 sec" which means 7.999999 (if your lucky). The only thing is its american, and american manfufactures like to choke the engine. So bolt on mods can add a good amount of hp, a dual exhaust could add some nice hp. It could be close. blah *** as grand am.
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Old 12-15-2004, 07:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I used to own a Grand Am GT. Not fast at all. Lots of torque but got my butt kicked a lot. I smoked one when I used to street race my lude a couple of years ago.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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if you have a prelude SS, dont race anything, just cruise around and act cool hahaha
but seriously if you are not racing for more than a 1/4-1/2 of a mile, dont try because it has torque and gets off the line faster...(shamless personal experience of defeat)

however your 97SH should take it
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My girlfriend thinks she can take me at least through 2nd gear in her 97 Grand-AM SE. Im calling bull**** though, mayyyybe through first. Her car does feel like it may have a slight torque advanatage under 3000rpm's compared to my prelude(97 base), probably due to the 2.4L engine. after 3000 though, its all over.
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never had a problem with the grand-ams...
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yea grand am's and cougar's are both slow, the slightly modded grandam could give you a fun run but the cougar should be gobbled up for breakfast, lunch and dinner lol.
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Well, cant guarantee, but Im pretty sure shes wrong. Grand ams weigh bout 50lbs more. And I dont think the put out much more hp. Honestly, id be cryin if you didnt beat her. Ive driven a 2000 Grand Prix GTP (Supercharged). Moderately fast, definately good response cause of the sc, but not as fast as the lude. Im sorry but a cheap american sports sedan vs a Japanese sport compact lude, I dont think so.
GTPs are slow??? Most of them run high 13's around here. Granted they aren't stock, but when all you have to do is change a pulley to knock half a second off the quarter, we don't have a chance. I think in stock trim they still pull mid-high 14's...and the Lude can't hang with that. Even a I/H/E Lude would have a tough time with a stock GTP.
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Old 12-20-2004, 07:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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GTPs are slow??? Most of them run high 13's around here. Granted they aren't stock, but when all you have to do is change a pulley to knock half a second off the quarter, we don't have a chance. I think in stock trim they still pull mid-high 14's...and the Lude can't hang with that. Even a I/H/E Lude would have a tough time with a stock GTP.
i agree. a co-worker has a stock one and he was right on my azz whenever i was trying to get away from him.
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If you can drive then it's no contest whatsoever, at least if your SH is running right.
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Old 12-24-2004, 11:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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if you have a prelude SS, dont race anything, just cruise around and act cool hahaha
thats what i do theres a big euro shop close to where i work so theres tons of awesome cars. i mainly just mess around with mini cooper s's.
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