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Old 09-01-2000, 06:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I wouldn't go with a Zapco amp for subs, it's a waste. I'd recommend a Cadence A5HC ($310@woofersetc.com) with two 10W3D2's (series the VC's), that amp does about 700 watts @2ohms and it's class D so it won't stress your alt. The subs should run about $450 with a box at your shop. Installation labor should be about $100 and I'd bring your own wires etc. as the stuff they sell will be expensive. Go with a smaller sized box, if JL recommends .75-1.0 cubic foot go with like a .8 ft^3 box. That'll give a nice hump in the upper bass that sounds better with rap. With that amp volume will not be an issue either.

To answer your question though, $950 isn't bad for what you're getting. Just try to give the subs at least 200 watts each.
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Old 09-01-2000, 02:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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you think a Zapco amp is too fancy to power just a sub.. that the sub won't take advantage of it?

or that its simply not good

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Old 09-01-2000, 08:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Zapco makes really good amps, I don't think you should waste this quality on subs. It's harder to hear distortion etc. in subs anyways. You want to buy power and above 600 watts you want to go with class D. The Cadence will sound great and it won't draw tons of current.
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Old 09-02-2000, 12:24 AM   #24 (permalink)
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i went to the shop today, they said the zapco amp puts out RMS 250 watts to each sub.

they want to charge me 200$ for a base controller made by zapco. i think i'm gonna do it. just ogtta get more money
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Old 09-02-2000, 01:26 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You mean $200 for the amp with bass controller or just the bass controller? $950 for the subs, with box, and amp with wiring etc. installed sounds like a good deal to me (especially at a local shop.) I must confess I don't know much about the various Zapco models. You should check how much it goes for online and that it actually does 500 watts bridged.
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very soon:
2 JL 10W3 w/ Box & Zapco - $900
Zapco Volume Control - $245

not so soon:
Zapco AG7360 - $500

all pricesc include labor. i pay cash so no takes. these are the bottom line prices.

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Old 09-02-2000, 05:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
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$250 for a bass control? You're kidding right? Are you using an aftermarket deck? If so I'd use the fade function on that to control sub volume. If not, I can recommend a high quality LOC that you can mount up front that will do the same thing for $30. The other prices seem good but I'd strongly recommend you go to zapco.com and check the power specs on the amp.
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the lady said i cfould either get the zapco volume control to control the bass, which would work with the zapco amp or i could do "crossovers" she said crossovers would cost 215$ installed and weren't really as good.

i have a nakamichi cd-45z headunit. it has a subout but no sub volume control.

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Use the rear pre-out on the Nak and fade F/R to control the bass volume. I would not spend $250 to get a silly bass knob.
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fade? i thought that was left right
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Fade sets front-to-rear signal level
Balance sets left-to-right signal level

The best thing would be a non-fading pre-out but I don't think the Nak has that. Conventional fade simultaneously reduces the front while increasing the rear signal level (or vice versa.) A non-fading pre-out controls the signal level independently of the other pre-outs (in effect becoming a volume control.) My rather inexpensive Alpine deck has this option.
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yea, i don't know why the n ak doesn't have it. lots of cheaper decks do.

i don't think the fader will work that well though.
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Uh, so I guess there's no way of talking you out of spending $250. Ya know, you could see how the fade works and if you don't like get your fancy bass control. Oh well, can't say I didn't try
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hmm. i'll give it a shot. what will that do to my rear speakers? and if its a seperate sub output, won't t'he fade have nothing to do with it?

what does everyone else do who is in my boat with no sub volume control.

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if i remember right the focal utopia 11" cost about $1100.i like the orion xtr's.the new xtr pro's sound incredible.
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