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Old 07-05-2008, 11:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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remote starter / immobilizer 5th gen Help!!

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I just had a remote starter / alarm/ keyless entry installed in my car. Everything works great but the only thing that concerned me was that the technician had to hide a spare oem key in the steering wheel unit and wire it to the ignition system so it would sense that the chip was there... thus its able to be started with any spare/cut key. I've heard of immbilzer bypass units and was wondering if this eliminates the need to have the key hidden there to bypass the unit. I am uneasy knowing that the immobilzer is pretty much useless now. And even if i was to get one of these units installed, wouldn't it be possible to just hot wire the bypass unit in the same way someone would hot wire a normal car? I am a newb at these things nor am I a knowledgable thief. Are there immobilzer bypass units anyone can recommend and does anyone have any comments on the Omega IB-H1 model i looked up? Omega IB-H1 (ibh1) , Vehicle Security, Alarm Installation and Accessories, Factory Immobilizer Bypass Modules - Sonic Electronix

Your thoughts please, I am so lost

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DEI makes a bypass for the Prelude, but the issue is that now some one "could" hotwire your car with that key hidden under the wheel.
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FYI, DEI makes honda specific bypass modules now that do not require a key to be in them.
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I've purchased a DEI 555dw on ebay and just waiting on this to come in, can't wait to get this baby on, and have a peace of mind. 555dw is the right one right?
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i have the one that you program the key and dont have to keep the key in the dash and it works like a champ
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the 555dw is nice but i hate these models always having problems nothing beats the key in the box just make sure its hidden well
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Is there any chance you can take a picture of where the key is hidden so that it can be bypassed? I just bought my 99 Prelude and it only has one key and I don't want to have to pay the dealer $1-200 (quotes I've received) to get a spare key made, when any hardware store will make a standard key for under $2.

I took apart the column cover and tried starting it with a non-security key, while placing the security key in various positions around the lock, and I could barely get it to work.
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Is there any chance you can take a picture of where the key is hidden so that it can be bypassed? I just bought my 99 Prelude and it only has one key and I don't want to have to pay the dealer $1-200 (quotes I've received) to get a spare key made, when any hardware store will make a standard key for under $2.

I took apart the column cover and tried starting it with a non-security key, while placing the security key in various positions around the lock, and I could barely get it to work.
If you go to a dealer ask them for the price of a key that is chipped for you. They don't need to cut it. (that drives up the price of the key)
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I may try again at the dealer, but I have an OBD1 ecu, so I don't think the immobilizer is working as anything other than a starter kill (I was able to hot-wire the car when I used a hardware store key since I didn't know it had an immobilizer, haha)

I don't know if this would work if you still have an OBD2 ecu, but could one just disconnect the wiring from the lock cylinder (which goes to the reader) and just jump a couple wires to bypass the chip reader? I haven't really dug into how this system works, but I think it's pretty worthless without the stock ecu.
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the only way to go is the bypass unit. You can hide the key pretty well by taping electircal wire to the key and wrapping the wires around the ecu unit (keyhole), thats what the installer did for me before i got the bypass. The 555dw worked with no problems
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Not to sure about the ecu unit, dont know too much about them nor about hot wiring cars at that

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I may try again at the dealer, but I have an OBD1 ecu, so I don't think the immobilizer is working as anything other than a starter kill (I was able to hot-wire the car when I used a hardware store key since I didn't know it had an immobilizer, haha)

I don't know if this would work if you still have an OBD2 ecu, but could one just disconnect the wiring from the lock cylinder (which goes to the reader) and just jump a couple wires to bypass the chip reader? I haven't really dug into how this system works, but I think it's pretty worthless without the stock ecu.
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i have heard of people paying out the butt for new keys, i went to my local honda dealer in indiana when i first got my 99 lude and only payed 23 bucks for two cut and programed keys, are some dealers ripping people off or something?
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That's interesting if it's that cheap! I guess I'll call around again and try to find someone who doesn't want my to bend over! It would be nice to keep the immobilizer, but not at the absurd cost of more keys.
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get the bypass my freind told me it doesnt talk to long i have the viper alarm system in my car and i need it for the remote start to work it was only like 20 bucks on ebay not a bad deal
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Thanks for the heads-up on that unit. I just found it on ebay *$28 shipped, or
so*. DEI 555I is a part number.

However, it looks like that MAY only work with remote start. I suppose you
could just connect the wire that looks for the remote start signal to the ignition
switch, then it would just always think you were remote starting it, when you
were using a copied key

This whole thing just bugs me, since I don't have the original ECU. It seems
like I should be able to literally just bypass a relay, somewhere in the starter
system, and get the starter to work with ANY key. Anyway, this is low priority,
at this point, since I have a key and the car works When I lose said
key...priority will rise!
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Thanks for the heads-up on that unit. I just found it on ebay *$28 shipped, or
so*. DEI 555I is a part number.

However, it looks like that MAY only work with remote start. I suppose you
could just connect the wire that looks for the remote start signal to the ignition
switch, then it would just always think you were remote starting it, when you
were using a copied key

This whole thing just bugs me, since I don't have the original ECU. It seems
like I should be able to literally just bypass a relay, somewhere in the starter
system, and get the starter to work with ANY key. Anyway, this is low priority,
at this point, since I have a key and the car works When I lose said
key...priority will rise!
Well then again, someone could break into your car and bypass that relay thing too so theres ups and downs i guess...
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Well then again, someone could break into your car and bypass that relay thing too so theres ups and downs i guess...
Right, they can do that on any car with an aftermarket ecu.

That's why it's good to have a paging alarm, a hidden fuel cut and comprehensive insurance
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