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Old 10-06-2009, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey new to the forum just had a quick question. I just bought my 2001 Honda Prelude and am looking to replace the speakers. I have heard that the front speakers are rated as 6 1/2" but are actually smaller. Does anyone know if these speakers will fit? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Pioneer TS-A1673R (tsa1673r) 6-1/2" Speakers Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix
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They should fit OK, but they will probably be snug around the edges. And they have the option of being mounted with 3 screws instead of 4...I think the Preludes use 3. They are also pretty shallow so you might not run into too much trouble with the door panel basket behind the speaker. At the worst, you might need to trim away that basket.

Why not go with components? The Prelude is set up for them, they will sound much better than the Pioneers you're looking at. They are a bit more expensive, but well worth it.
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3-way speakers sound like ass. Either go with 2-way speakers or components.

Here are the components I installed. Mounting these in the doors requires modification. Mounting these in the back only requires a 6x9-to-6½ conversion plate. But, no more 6x9s for me.

Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-A1702C 6.5-Inch A-Series 250-Watt Component Package: Electronics

FYI, I have two 6½" Pioneer speakers and two 6x9" Pioneers speakers for sale. Check my sig.
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Ok thanks guys. I am not to savvy with speakers so what is the difference between Component speakers and normal? I am looking to try and not do any modification if at all possible.

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3-way speakers sound like ass.
That is a very uneducated statement. There are high quality 2, 3,and 5 way coaxial speakers that are widely available. You get what you pay for. If you buy cheap ass 3 ways speakers they will sound like sh*t, but if you invest in a good set they will sound just as good as a comparable set of 2 ways.

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Ok thanks guys. I am not to savvy with speakers so what is the difference between Component speakers and normal? I am looking to try and not do any modification if at all possible.
Components have separate tweeters, woofers, and crossovers. The overall sound quality from components is much better than it would be from coaxial speakers, but if you are using the stock radio you may not even be able to notice a difference. I would recommend that you read this for further information:

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That is a very uneducated statement. There are high quality 2, 3,and 5 way coaxial speakers that are widely available. You get what you pay for. If you buy cheap ass 3 ways speakers they will sound like sh*t, but if you invest in a good set they will sound just as good as a comparable set of 2 ways.
You're right, I didn't complete the statement.

3-way speakers sound like ass in our cars. We have a 6-speaker system with two 6x9 "woofers", two 6½" mids, and two 1" tweeters. Using 3-way speakers in place of the woofers or mids alters the purpose of the speaker. Furthermore, there's not as much ability to control the output of 3-way speakers. That ½" tweeter they put into every one just squeels. Annoying. I don't even like 2-way speakers. I'll stick with single cones.
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I also currently have components, but I have had decent coaxials in the past. They are generally cheaper and a little easier to install, but there is no competition sound quality wise. Components always sound much better. However, with a stock head unit, the difference isn't going to be very noticeable.

OP, post what you are willing to spend, and I might be able recommend a speaker that is within your budget. Just be prepared to modify the mounting location on the door to make an aftermarket speaker fit. Aftermarket 6x9 speakers easily drop into the rear deck, but the fronts take a little work.
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ya im lucky.my bro is the manager of Ovation audio off of 82nd street so he knows all the car audio stuff and how to install them and i get nething cheap.hey Indylude let me know if u want nething and ill try to get u a deal.guessing ur already set since it sounds like u know ur stuff but just offering
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ya im lucky.my bro is the manager of Ovation audio off of 82nd street so he knows all the car audio stuff and how to install them and i get nething cheap.hey Indylude let me know if u want nething and ill try to get u a deal.guessing ur already set since it sounds like u know ur stuff but just offering
Thanks for the offer, but I already have enough extra audio stuff in my garage to put together a few almost complete car stereo systems. Ovation does sell the good stuff though, so maybe someday I will take you up on that....

Also, chances are, if your brother is the manager of Ovation, I have sold him some stuff though my work. If I remember I will look up my contact with them at work later this week.....see if its the same guy.

Just a shot in the dark from your user name, but your name isn't Brian is it? That would be too creepy if it is.....
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no my name is Austin Boone.my bro is Stephen Boone.idk if u would have dealt with him or the owner of that particular Ovation but my brother manages it and can do the custom fiberglass enclosures n sh*t u c on pimp my ride and unique whips.its pretty cool
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Ok thanks guys. I have decided to buy these speakers.

Kicker KS60.2 (08ks602) 6-1/2" Component Systems Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix
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I hope you have an aftermarket head unit. Those speakers call for 75W RMS.
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Aftermarket head unit won't do it, an amp is the only route to properly power those speakers. The best you can realistically get from a head unit is 35 watts RMS per channel.
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These guys are saying that your headunit's amp won't be powerful enough for those components, which is true. But instead of looking at the power requirements (watts RMS), you should be looking at the sensitivity of the speakers, which looks to be 88dB under the Features & Specs tab. That is way too low of a rating to use with a headunit's amp...they will distort at very low volume levels. One or two dB makes a huge difference in sound volume. If you plan to use the headunit's amp, consider finding something around 92dB, like the Polk dB6501:

Polk Audio db6501 6-1/2" component speaker system at Crutchfield.com

I'm just using these as an example because they fit with little modifications in the door panels as well as have a high sensitivity. I'm using the previous version (dB6500) and they sound ok using my headunit's amp, but I plan to install an amp later on.
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These guys are saying that your headunit's amp won't be powerful enough for those components, which is true. But instead of looking at the power requirements (watts RMS), you should be looking at the sensitivity of the speakers, which looks to be 88dB under the Features & Specs tab.
Actually, you should look at both sensitivity and power requirements since they directly relate to each other. I know from another thread the OP has at least one amp and an aftermarket head unit already installed, so given that information, it wouldn't be too difficult of add another amp. The biggest problem the kicker speakers will cause is back-fill. The stock 6x9 in the rear will be MUCH louder than the aftermarket fronts if they are both being driven by the HU, no matter what its output is. The Polk's suggested would lessen this problem, but there will still be a big noticeable bias towards the rear of the car.
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I have those exact speakers in my 2000 SH. I got them at Circuit City for $199.99, so that's a great price. I did have to cut out my baskets in the door panel.
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