If you're thinking about the Pioneer 7700MP, I'd look into last year's 7600MP, which is a better deck than its' successor. The 6700MP is a pretty good deck also, if you want to stick with the '05 models. The 7700MP (to me) is a downgrade in function/features from the 7600MP in order to incorporate some of the features of the P80MP. In the end, I don't think it was worth it. It's got cool looks, but other than that, it was a disapointment.
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It doesn't matter what kind of icecream you get in Mochi. Why? Because Mochi is icecream wrapped in awesome.
If I can get a 5 or 7-band EQ with the head-unit, that's all I would need - I'd like more flexibility than a basic 2 or 3 band, but a full external EQ would be wasted on me.
I definitely hear what you're saying about EQ'ing differences for FM vs. AM vs. CD or whatever - but wouldn't that still be a problem with an external one? I know some head-units (I thought most, but maybe not) keep band specific EQ settings - but I guess I'll have to look into that to make sure now. I know my cheap-ass Blaupunkt keeps independent bass/treble/bass-boost controls for all the different bands & CD.
What is it you don't like about them? Something you've heard? Something you've experienced?
Of the ones that I've listened to in your price range the EQ is really.... "fuzzy" when it comes to defined cross points. If you're okay with a general area freq cross then you'll be okay. I've used my test CD w/ freq sine tones none of them were on freq or within 10 hz of the frequency I was trying to isolate. It was aggrevating to say the least and since I've given up using the built in EQ in the HU for anything other than the standard bass/mid/treb as it still only works the same in my experience. This was with Alpine and some Kenwood head units. Also most seperate EQ's or DSP's if you buy the same brand as your head unit will have settings for each type.
I didn't like JVC because of the UI and the fact that a lot of the time they have noise in the systems. I'm not sure if it's because they try to up their internal amp ratings or something but if you have the volume at a low inaudble setting you hear the amped hiss. Out of frustration I even grounded the unit using a 4 gauge ground wire and drilled a 12mm chassis ground. It still made that hiss, never liked them after that point. But if you're not using the internal amp, I don't much ot say about them other than I hate the UI.
The seek time for MP3's is NOT 6 seconds btw. For me, it's almost instant. (same speed as seeking through normal audio cd tracks)
Alright, I'll check it out.
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Of the ones that I've listened to in your price range the EQ is really.... "fuzzy" when it comes to defined cross points. If you're okay with a general area freq cross then you'll be okay. I've used my test CD w/ freq sine tones none of them were on freq or within 10 hz of the frequency I was trying to isolate.
Ah, I see. I'll have to take a demo disc w/ me and investigate.
Demo'd a few random Kenwood, Pioneer, and JVC decks at Best Buy last night - extremely frustrating since the stupid demo booth resets itself so often. Every 30 seconds the whole thing shuts down and you have to reselect which deck/speaker/amp combo you want, and then try to get back to whatever feature you were checking out. Drives you nuts. And they really didn't have any models on display that were comparable to ones I'm interested in, so I don't think it did me much good.
I'm gonna have to drive down to Concord & Manchester this weekend to find some decent audio places.
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The seek time for MP3's is NOT 6 seconds btw. For me, it's almost instant. (same speed as seeking through normal audio cd tracks)
For what it's worth, here's one of the threads I found talking about various Pioneer decks and their long load/seek times for mp3's. Found a couple other threads on other car stereo boards that corroborated the info . . . .
But I'll check it out for myself if I can ever find one to demo.
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For what it's worth, here's one of the threads I found talking about various Pioneer decks and their long load/seek times for mp3's. Found a couple other threads on other car stereo boards that corroborated the info . . . .
But I'll check it out for myself if I can ever find one to demo.
Whoa, old thread there! They were talking about the 4-series from Pioneer. We're currently on 7-series. (the 2005 models) MP3 playability has improved leaps and bounds from those 3 year old decks. Take an mp3 cd into a store and test out the various stereos. My DEH-P7600MP loads them like a snap.
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If you have a Best Buy or Car Toys in your area, they have the new Alpine 9847 for 189.99. This one has all the features, is XM and Sirius ready, Mp3, and Ipod ready.
On a side note, I was told by their installation dept. that they would need to rewire everything, to bypass the rear amp (due to the acoustic feedback system), which would cost an extra $100 in labor. Can anyone attest to what it takes to simply change out head units? I am keeping the same speakers.
the 9830 does? what's the significance of the 4 volts preamp? Any idea if i would need to rewire because of rear amp/acoustic feedback? is there something special involved when changing head units in a 5th gen lude?
If you run a search or two on AFBS, you should find TONS of discussion on the subject. Or even easier, look in the Prelude Audio FAQ at the top of this forum.
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the 9830 does? what's the significance of the 4 volts preamp?
Yup. A stronger pre-amp voltage gives a cleaner signal to the amp, with less chance of interference.
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