KB798

ok, i've searched and found many results. however i still can't seem to understand the process.

so far, from what i've read, in order to fit an aftermarket boot onto an aftermarket knob, on a '94 prelude (i doubt this matters unless you have a type sh)

1)pull down boot, including connector ring from the shift knob

2)unscrew the shift knob

3)remove the console

4)turn the console upside down, and then remove the zip tie that
connects the stock boot to the connector ring

5)remove screws that hold down the boot

6)install the new boot by screwing it back in

7)right now, the boot is not connected to the shifter nor the connector ring. i fold inward the top of the boot, and then zip tie it from the inside with the shifter. i drew this make-shift pic. is it right?
[img]http://www.*********************.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMTk3ODg5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D[/img]

8)the bottom portion of the shift knob slides into the crevice created by the inverted shift boot at the top. what should i do if the fitment is lose? i drew another pic, to show what i think it should look like
[img]http://www.*********************.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMTk3ODkwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D[/img]

i know i probably make it seem harder than it really is...but i just want to make sure that i get it right.

any help/input is appreciated

thanks in advance,

Ludatic

the problem is, the shift lever is so slick that the boot will keep falling down even with a ziptie... i think a really strong rubber band would work better but it would still slip down in between shifting.

the way i have it is i still have the chrome ring and the nut that comes with the aftermarket knob under the chrome ring.. so the nut and the knob hold the ring up... but it looks kinda ugly...

maybe there's some sort of grommet that'll hold a boot up better...

nice pics btw

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KB798

haha thanks yea i was wondering how strong zip ties would be to hold up the boot against the shifter. not only that, all that material against a thin piece of metal doesn't exactly aspire confidence .

i was thinking maybe super glue would work...but what if you need to remove it? o man what a pain that would be =T. what kinds of strong rubber bands are out there? i assume stuff from office depot won't be strong enough....

please any other help/suggestions would be nice

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Ludatic

the problem isn't the strength of the ziptie really.. it's more of the friction of the boot against the metal shaft.

a rubberband tied on the metal shaft wont move.

a rubberband holding the boot, which is slippery against the metal shaft WILL move.

maybe have 2 rubber bands, one around the shaft, then another around the boot..

*shrug*

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KB798

oh i see what you mean...except for

what do you mean by that? i wonder how other luders do it...with zipties. i guess my diagrams aren't right then?

sigfan2340

What about a small hose clamp? Something along this line. Should hold pretty tight and you can get them at any hardware store.

http://www.breezeclamps.com/mini.htm

Or just buy a Momo boot and Momo Knob and get the adapter ring.

nuro

i let my shift boot fall. it may look like ass, but its more comfortable to hold the shifter that way

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CrazieLude

I got the CTR shift boot and I took it off the bracket it came on and put it on the stock bracket. I didnt have to worry about the top, but you could take the stock top piece and just put it back on your new shift boot.

T

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I also folded the rim of the boot inside like in your picture (when i had a universal shifter).

It worked fine, and it showed a little of the shifter, which wasn't a problem because my knob was also alluminum.


I now have an rsx knob, and that came with a plastic piece to hold up the boot.

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cantdrive55

CTR/ITR shift boot is the only way to go...

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obrigado

There is an easy solution to this. Buy a small rubber grommet that will fit snugly onto the shift column from your local hardware/plumbing store, like so:


The rubber has an extremely high friction coeficcient with the metal shaft of the shift column. You can use a zip tie around outside of the grommet if it isn't quite snug enough. Install the boot over the grommet, install the shift knob, and then pull up on the grommet through the shift knob until it is snug against the base of the knob. The grommet will have enough friction to hold up the boot, but it can still be manipulated by hand if need be for install/uninstall of the knob/console/boot.

It will end up looking like this (The grommet is underneath the shift boot, out of view, the black trim around the top of the boot came with my shift knob...OEM RSX accessory knob for those who wish to know):



Clean...oem...easy...

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nuro

thats funny. the RSX's knob is really an accord euro-r knob

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obrigado

Isn't the Euro-R knob titanium with red lettering? Because I purchased this RSX accessory knob straight from honda, it's aluminum with black lettering.

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KB798

i'm sorry but i was quite able to understand what you mean? can you explain it a little more?

i thought the ITR boot was too short for our cars?

that looks really nice and clean. what boot do you have? if it isn't too much trouble, can you take a pic of what it looks like from another angle? preferably showing what the inside would look like?

thanks

obrigado

I wish I had a picture of the other side, but unfortunately I am in college right now several thousands of miles away from the Lude. Just imagine a snug donut aroung the shift lever, underneath the boot trim, which can be pulled up through the boot to sandwich the boot btween the grommet and the knob:

The boot is an SH boot (slighly smaller than the base boot, because the SH knob is longer) with an RSX trim ring (it came with the knob).

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nuro

you may be right. it is probably red.

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cantdrive55

Hmm, I'm not positive, but it maybe. The one I've got on my car is a CTR boot.

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KB798

am i right to assume that different grommets are needed, depending on the base of the knob?

but one thing i'm thinking about is, the knob that i'm interested in, this one:


it doesn't look like you can fit a grommet in there... =T

so the top of the boot is circular right? do you suppose that it would be flush as well with the knob i'm getting?

obrigado

The grommet has nothing to do with the grommet, it sits on the shift lever UNDER both the boot and the knob, it merely acts as a platform upon which the underside of the top of the boot sits, pinching the boot between the grommet and the bottom of the knob.

Like so:
[KNOB]
[BOOT]
[GROMMET]

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KB798

i feel like a total idiot because i'm just not understanding this thing for some reason

ok, so far this is what i'm getting from you. in this pic:
[img]http://www.*********************.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMTk4ODQ1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D[/img]

the area enclosed in red is where the grommet sits underneath the boot. how does the boot stick to the grommet if the grommet is underneath the boot? and what did you do to the top of the boot, to make it flush with the bottom of the knob?

sorry for the millions of questions, but thanks for your explanations