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Old 04-13-2006, 11:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why a modded 4th gen over a modded 94-97 accord

So im arguing with a friend who is swapping a h22 into his 94-97 accord coupe and i am saying he should have just gotten a prelude for the handling and the fact that the engine was designed for the car. He is telling me that a 94-97 accord with a modded suspension will handle as well as a 4th gen prelude with modded suspension and that the engine wasnt necessarily designed for the prelude even though it showed up there first. What is some ammo i can use in this argument against him?
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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the prelude was designed as a sports car....

the accord is a family cruiser.
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He is right that the H22 wasn't designed for the Prelude, even though it ended up there first. In the '80s, apparently it was intended for the NSX. Then they decided it just wasn't adequate.

He is wrong that an Accord will handle as well as a lude. My old roommate had a 94 Accord when I had my 93 Prelude, both all stock, and the Prelude handled way better. Drop both cars, and the Prelude will still handle way better. Why does he think dropping the car will overcome the differences in the chassis? That's retarded.
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He is saying that the cars are built on the same chassis, and ya i wasnt sure about the prelude being the car that the h22 was designed for but i still think we can claim that right
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I have a friend with a 97 with st rear sways, coils. still doesnt handle as well as my car. i have driven it.
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Basically i need some evidence that the chassis of the prelude is better to begin with than the chassis of his accord, cause if they are the same then it wouldnt really matter after you began to mod both of them correct?
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Aren't those cars even heavier than ours?
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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accords are heavier, not as torsonally rigid as the prelude, and too long, IMO.
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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its an accord WTF! souldn't have to say to much after that
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Ya i mean i agree but does anyone know a web site or some where where i can get information about the torsonal rigidity or chassis strength or whatever?
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and edmunds.com list a 95 4thgen lude weight at 2932 while the same year accord coupe is 2954...
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Didn't they put the H22 in The Euro R Accords and also didn't Honda use the Accord (the 4 door model 96-97 I believe) as a road race car??? My 94 handled great, it was lowered, 215/45/17's, full camber and ST swaybars + strut tower bars. I loved it!
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Yes and the engine was also placed in JDM accords as well
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Let him do it, and just go at it at the next AutoX and see who the winner is. Drive eachothers cars etc
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Prelude: 100" wheelbase. Accord: 107" wheelbase. That will never change.

Just tell him he should get an Accord so you'll always have a car that handles better. Then you can quit arguing with him about it.
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well first off

1. chassis are not the same, the prelude doesn't share its chassis with any other honda
2. suspension setups are different. preludes have a better suspension setup (i forgot A-arm or mulitilink wishbone.....something along those lines)

you can't just throw money at both cars and say one is better. with similar mods, its gonna be a drivers race. preludes are great.......but they aren't THAT great as some of us would like to believe.

ppl that say things like this are ignorant. they are either trying to backup their decision or really just don't know how things work
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the ludes have 4 wheel double wishbone suspension too i believe right.
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Ok so where can i find out what the chassis actually are if they are different like i believe them to be and someone has to know what the suspension setup is on our prelude?
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Prelude has a multilink suspension front and rear, or at least the 5th gen does (pretty sure the 4th gen is the same).
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He is right that the H22 wasn't designed for the Prelude, even though it ended up there first. In the '80s, apparently it was intended for the NSX. Then they decided it just wasn't adequate.
i've never heard this before. the NSX was designed to be an exotic supercar with a v6... how many exotics do you know of that have a 4banger? not to mention the 4th gen lude and 1st gen NSX were introduced at the same time... both came out in 91 in japan

the h22a/f22b was designed for the prelude as a natural step up from the b21 in the 3rd gen. it was never designed for the accord, even though later (in 94) was introduced into the accord coupe and sedan in japan. while it was avail. right from the start in the 91 jdm prelude (start of the 4th gen)
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