I cannot find what i am looking for so here we is what i would like to discuss: Compare and Contrast all Pros and Cons of installing all or combinations of:
adjustabled shocks and coilovers
front strut bar
front strut tower bar
rear strut bar
rear tower bar
tie rod
anything else.
Like discuss how each piece would affect the cars handeling. and what would change depending on what in you install in different combinations.
Originally posted by Qveon I cannot find what i am looking for so here we is what i would like to discuss: Compare and Contrast all Pros and Cons of installing all or combinations of:
adjustabled shocks and coilovers
front strut bar
front strut tower bar
rear strut bar
rear tower bar
tie rod
anything else.
Like discuss how each piece would affect the cars handeling. and what would change depending on what in you install in different combinations.
Compare and Contrast all Pros and Cons of installing all or combinations of:
adjustabled shocks and coilovers: you can tune your suspension with a variety of spring rates and damper rates, from soft and boaty to stiff as a board. it's good thing if you know what you're doing, which isn't impossible to know.
front strut bar
front strut tower bar
rear strut bar
rear tower bar
tie rod: all of this stuff does squat. btw, strut bars and strut tower bars are the same thing. these are all a waste of money imo.
you're missing sway bars. sway bars are incredibly effective at reducing body roll and affecting handling balance.
Stiffen the rear end (sway bars or springs) will make the car exhibit more oversteer (less understeer). Stiffen the front (sway bars or springs) will make the car exhibit more understeer (less oversteer).
Originally posted by Qveon I cannot find what i am looking for so here we is what i would like to discuss: Compare and Contrast all Pros and Cons of installing all or combinations of:
adjustabled shocks and coilovers
front strut bar
front strut tower bar
rear strut bar
rear tower bar
tie rod
anything else.
Like discuss how each piece would affect the cars handeling. and what would change depending on what in you install in different combinations.
Originally posted by Qveon How do sway bars affect steering?
sway bars keep the suspension from rolling too much, and affect load transfer and dynamic weight distribution. because they bind both sides of the suspension together, when you corner, the sway bar literally holds the inner wheel down.
as far as the understeer/oversteer tendencies of the rear sway setup, it's pretty complicated, and i'm not sure i understand it completely myself, but fwiw, the fact that less weight is being transferred over the outer tire means that that tire also has less grip than it would normally relative to the front tires, which would lead to more neutral steering in a understeering car like ours.
someone feel free to correct, i'm still trying to figure out what caroll smith is talking about 100%
I just installed a ST rear sway bar, and I a lot of body roll when steering to the left. Is it because my endlink is loose a little or do I need an aftermarket front sway bar. Dont ask why the endlink is loose. Will take care of it monday.
Originally posted by GaRn what would make strut bars and tie bars useless?
that sounds like an uneducated statement to me..
they obviously arent as important as sway bars/springs/shocks, but they are obviously a factor.
because what they do is "stiffen up" the frame. The frame does not flex much as it is, due to the construction of the frame. Unless your car is made out of rubber or you've cut out the firewall and rear cross supports.
think about where a front strut tower mounts, right in front of the firewall, not more than a few inches away...now think about what the firewall is, a thick steel plate, more or less. the rear is also a beefy steel piece. the mounting locations are also not high on the car, which means the forces that the mounting points are subject to have a small moment arm, especially considering where the car's center of gravity is.
tie rods, on a double wishbone suspension also wouldn't do much, since there's probably little to no play in the lower suspension.
does it make a difference? iono, it could. is it worth the money you'd spend? no way.
well i already have a rear sway bar, but i am not sure on suspension. How do you think Tien basics would do? are tien's ride height adjustable? Or is there another package that would be better and cheaper?
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