Hey everybody
I suppose this post will show my lack of knowledge but I've been reading previous posts and know there is some great knowledge/experience on this forum.
I bought my '98 back in august and up to this point really have not done anything with the vtec. I think mostly I don't want to mess anything up lol so basically could somebody explain vtec. Now I don't mean technical engine terms per se but I suppose a more practical explanation.
How do I hit vtec? Any particlular rpm?
Can I hit it in any gear?
Do I just stay in a particular gear and let my rpms hit a certain point or downshift?
Will I feel a kick?
Sorry if these questions are ridiculous but I appreciate the help!!
just drive fast and you'll feel it. its better to experience it first hand then ask; especially when you simply have a vtec vehicle of your own.
unless you have an auto and it shifts for you and that could be the reason why you never felt it before?
you're in luck, i worked for honda selling these babies. now i'm a tuner.
qualifications? tops honda sales, converted 98 accord auto to 98 prelude man w/ naturally aspirated mods.
VTEC = stands for Variable Valve Timing Electronic Control
How do I hit vtec? Any particlular rpm?
VTEC is pre programmed from Honda to kick in at 5500 rpms for base models and 5300 rpms for SH. I'm not gonna talk about autos at this point.
Can I hit it in any gear?
Theoretically you can hit vtec in any gear only when the engine is warmed up. i would not recommend first gear as it is short and you won't be able to shift into second until the rmps lower to less than 4500 rpms. i would recommend for you to shift to third as usual then hold/rev to 5500 rpms, think about shifting at about 7500 rpms. this will ensure you will hold beyond 5500rpms and feel the kick to 7500 rpms then shift to 4th before redline.
Do I just stay in a particular gear and let my rpms hit a certain point or downshift?
Certainly you can downshift, i would only downshift (since you're a newbie) from cruising 5th at 3000-3500 rpms to 4th, be careful to raise your rpm to prep your engine for the stress then hold till you hit the appropriate rpm to hit vtec and shift back up.
Will I feel a kick?
if you drive a stock/modified DOHC (dual over head cam) prelude then yes. the newer DOHC ie. I-VTEC not so much.
you're in luck, i worked for honda selling these babies. now i'm a tuner.
qualifications? tops honda sales, converted 98 accord auto to 98 prelude man w/ naturally aspirated mods.
VTEC = stands for Variable Valve Timing Electronic Control
How do I hit vtec? Any particlular rpm?
VTEC is pre programmed from Honda to kick in at 5500 rpms for base models and 5300 rpms for SH. I'm not gonna talk about autos at this point.
Can I hit it in any gear?
Theoretically you can hit vtec in any gear only when the engine is warmed up. i would not recommend first gear as it is short and you won't be able to shift into second until the rmps lower to less than 4500 rpms. i would recommend for you to shift to third as usual then hold/rev to 5500 rpms, think about shifting at about 7500 rpms. this will ensure you will hold beyond 5500rpms and feel the kick to 7500 rpms then shift to 4th before redline.
Do I just stay in a particular gear and let my rpms hit a certain point or downshift?
Certainly you can downshift, i would only downshift (since you're a newbie) from cruising 5th at 3000-3500 rpms to 4th, be careful to raise your rpm to prep your engine for the stress then hold till you hit the appropriate rpm to hit vtec and shift back up.
Will I feel a kick?
if you drive a stock/modified DOHC (dual over head cam) prelude then yes. the newer DOHC ie. I-VTEC not so much.
hope this helps..
your full of crap
1. VTEC stands for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control
2.at operating temp. vtec engages at 5200 rpms, regardless of vehicle trim level
3.that statement is just so full of **** i dont know where to start. he wont be able to shift to 2nd until rpms drop to 4500? he can redline 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th all ****ing at fuel cuttoff if he wanted to.
4. why not just start out in 1st, then shift to 2nd, 3rd?
5. the only true thing you have said
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you're in luck, i worked for honda selling these babies. now i'm a tuner.
qualifications? tops honda sales, converted 98 accord auto to 98 prelude man w/ naturally aspirated mods.
VTEC = stands for Variable Valve Timing Electronic Control
How do I hit vtec? Any particlular rpm?
VTEC is pre programmed from Honda to kick in at 5500 rpms for base models and 5300 rpms for SH. I'm not gonna talk about autos at this point.
Can I hit it in any gear?
Theoretically you can hit vtec in any gear only when the engine is warmed up. i would not recommend first gear as it is short and you won't be able to shift into second until the rmps lower to less than 4500 rpms. i would recommend for you to shift to third as usual then hold/rev to 5500 rpms, think about shifting at about 7500 rpms. this will ensure you will hold beyond 5500rpms and feel the kick to 7500 rpms then shift to 4th before redline.
Do I just stay in a particular gear and let my rpms hit a certain point or downshift?
Certainly you can downshift, i would only downshift (since you're a newbie) from cruising 5th at 3000-3500 rpms to 4th, be careful to raise your rpm to prep your engine for the stress then hold till you hit the appropriate rpm to hit vtec and shift back up.
Will I feel a kick?
if you drive a stock/modified DOHC (dual over head cam) prelude then yes. the newer DOHC ie. I-VTEC not so much.
hope this helps..
You still have a lot of salesman in you, I'll give you that.
To everyone else, I give the following to help process all of that information:
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only newer cars like rsx , accord , civic SI and FIT does have ivtec which engages all the time or sooner like at 2000RPM (not exactly sure) VS modern vtec which engages only at a certain ECU set RPM to engagne.
sorry, i think you've grossly misunderstood. please take the time to process the entire information.
I'm sorry again, but your qualifications are?
I will say you are absolutely correct on what VTEC stands for. thank you for correcting. to JMG my apologies. I do hope the more important information about VTEC helps JMG.
I have to apologize to dontbuyprelude though I currently own both base model engine USDM from my accord swapped and also own a prelude SH. (how many preludes did you say you have? currently running of course)
With regard to hitting vtec in any gear, please let me clarify. Every prelude owner knows you can hit vtec in any gear, but try hitting vtec in first then as soon as you hit vtec shift into second. the manual transmission will not allow you shift to second until you are at least at 4500 rpms. (hey dontbuyprelude, how long have you've been driving stick? you know, manual, preludes of the 5th generation spec. or dohc vtec 4th gens). Now of course you can hit vtec on 2nd gear but i recommended 3rd because it would allow a longer enjoyment of vtec while in 3rd then shifting to 4th (a slightly longer gear) to enjoy the vtec then eventually 5th. ("sigh" oh the youth these days, so quick to think but not quick enough to grasp)
I challenge any and every 5th gen 5sp, and 4th gen dohc vtec (w/ warmed up motor) owner to start 1st gear and drive to redline and then shift to 2nd and tell me they can; because i believe dontbuyprelude is implying with his:
"3.that statement is just so full of **** i dont know where to start. he wont be able to shift to 2nd until rpms drop to 4500? he can redline 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th all ****ing at fuel cuttoff if he wanted to."
so dontbuyprelude what are your qualifications again? do your qualification exceed mine? i mean, being a member of forums can take you so far (no disrespect/pun intended) but i am also a member who also spent countless hours when i bought my SH like anyone else here. what makes you able to demean me and equal member like you, besides you know, being a jerk.
I have sold Honda's including preludes, I was the top sales and grosser before pursuing a more profitable career. (my net worth was over 350k when I was 26, I'm now 29). I currently own preludes, both manuals, 1 base, 1 SH. I prefer base for power, SH for handling (SH was designed for that).
No disrespect to other EQUAL members on this forums but i think people w/ loose inaccurate so called facts to leave them in check. Rather to have other members like myself to check for them.
I redline 1st into 2nd all the time. Different gear box to you guys though, but I find it hard to believe that you guys can't do it.
Don't see what qualifications or net worth have to do with flooring a car and changing gears either. Also in my experience car sales people generally don't know all that much about the cars they sell.
PS. I thought that VTEC didn't kick in in reverse? Although I am not sure I have ever tried it.
I redline 1st into 2nd all the time. Different gear box to you guys though, but I find it hard to believe that you guys can't do it.
Don't see what qualifications or net worth have to do with flooring a car and changing gears either. Also in my experience car sales people generally don't know all that much about the cars they sell.
PS. I thought that VTEC didn't kick in in reverse? Although I am not sure I have ever tried it.
+1 for everything except the different gear box. car sales people are usually dumb about the cars they sell, btw. and i also shift to 2nd at 3k rpms all the time because i live in az and follow old people.
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Last edited by lilredlude; 03-12-2010 at 08:46 AM.
With regard to hitting vtec in any gear, please let me clarify. Every prelude owner knows you can hit vtec in any gear, but try hitting vtec in first then as soon as you hit vtec shift into second. the manual transmission will not allow you shift to second until you are at least at 4500 rpms.
I challenge any and every 5th gen 5sp, and 4th gen dohc vtec (w/ warmed up motor) owner to start 1st gear and drive to redline and then shift to 2nd and tell me they can; because i believe dontbuyprelude is implying with his:
The manual transmission will not let you shift into second unless you are at 4500rpm? You can shift definately into 2nd under 4500rpm. Where did you get that idea? People shift into second under 4500rpm all the time. I even do it.
Your challenge is met. It can be done. You can redline 1st and shift into 2nd with no problem. You can redline each gear and nothing will prevent you from shifting. I've done it, a tons of other people have.
I vote that this guy: 97 bb6 sh posts more and that someone sends me some popcorn...
Wow... guess I've been performing magic every time I've shifted every single manual I've ever driver for the past 9 years below 3,000 RPM... I shift low all the time. Better gas mileage for the win.
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