VAFC vs. Super VAFC.. ? - Honda Prelude Forum

pocky · 04-15-2003, 07:52 AM

anybody know the difference from the two?

i tried looking at the apexi-usa site but i dont think they have the Super VAFC listed. at least not under the 2003 Price Listing

different part numbers too..
401-A008 Super VAFC
401-A908 VAFC

ShadowSonic · 04-15-2003, 08:00 AM

never heard of a Super one whats the difference?

Jon Like Wh0a · 04-15-2003, 08:11 AM

i've never heard of the super one either... plz give us some links or something...

PreludeRacer023 · 04-15-2003, 08:25 AM

i think your confusing two diff unit bro...
V-AFC..Vtec Air Feul Controller
S-AFC...Super...Air Feul Controller...
the S-AFC is just like the V-AFC only diff is theres no controls for Vtec, its used on all other cars...peace

axio · 04-15-2003, 09:11 AM

Naw, Pocky's right. There IS a super VAFC. Not just the S-AFC, but the Super VAFC is just the newer version of the VAFC. I'm not sure what the differences really area, except that the face has a different set of buttons. I think it's got a dial instead of the four buttons. I'm not sure what other features differentiate it though.

SuperFleaJQ · 04-15-2003, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pocky
anybody know the difference from the two?

i tried looking at the apexi-usa site but i dont think they have the Super VAFC listed. at least not under the 2003 Price Listing

different part numbers too..
401-A008 Super VAFC
401-A908 VAFC

Well, according to the 2003 Price Listing, t he part #s you have listed are:

401-A008 Oil Temp Sensor Adapter (Mazda/Mitsubishi)
401-A908 V-AFC ---you got this one right..

On the Japanese site, they show the AVC-R, Super AFC II, and V-AFC...nothing else in the way of AFCs...

you are probably thinking of this: Apex'i Super AFC II.

As far as I know, there is no Super V-AFC.

pocky · 04-15-2003, 10:08 AM

a search on google for "401-A008" brought up these:

http://www.jmdracing.com/store/produ...product_id=549
http://www.importpartsplus.com/index...3&prod_id=1428
http://www.xs4all.nl/~gordana/electronics.htm
http://www.i-m-racing.com/apexivtecafc.html

and a bunch more. i'm guessing its a newer model of it..?

axio · 04-15-2003, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperFleaJQ

Well, according to the 2003 Price Listing, t he part #s you have listed are:

401-A008 Oil Temp Sensor Adapter (Mazda/Mitsubishi)
401-A908 V-AFC ---you got this one right..

On the Japanese site, they show the AVC-R, Super AFC II, and V-AFC...nothing else in the way of AFCs...

you are probably thinking of this: Apex'i Super AFC II.

As far as I know, there is no Super V-AFC.

Hehe, oops my bad

pocky · 04-15-2003, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperFleaJQ

Well, according to the 2003 Price Listing, t he part #s you have listed are:

401-A008 Oil Temp Sensor Adapter (Mazda/Mitsubishi)
401-A908 V-AFC ---you got this one right..

On the Japanese site, they show the AVC-R, Super AFC II, and V-AFC...nothing else in the way of AFCs...

you are probably thinking of this: Apex'i Super AFC II.

As far as I know, there is no Super V-AFC.

i just checked it again,
the Oil Temp Sensor Adapter (Mazda/Mitsubishi) is actually
403-A008

so it might still possible that there is a new Super V-AFC...

khilgers · 04-15-2003, 12:30 PM

i didn't think the version 2 one was out yet. I know i've seen the safc 2, but not the vafc2

94LOOD · 04-16-2003, 08:37 PM

whew that new one with the dial looks NICE do you think an e-mail to Apexi would clear anything up?

axion68 · 04-16-2003, 11:05 PM

the newer safc has more points you can map the fuel curve at, plus a facelift (possibly more features, I haven't reasearched much into the new version). I would imagine the next vafc will have the same features.

Grant · 04-17-2003, 01:55 AM

AFC was the first Air fuel controller realsed by Apexi. Its consisted of manual Dials that were set with a screwdriver for different points on the RPM curve. It did not have a screen and fancy Graphics, and has been discontinued for several years. Some racers I know still prefer this model over the newer one.

The S-AFC (Super-AFC) is the one that looks and functions exactly the same as the V-AFC but without the VTEC control option... This version model is what most people are currently refering to when they talk about Air Fuel controllers.. and it is still very poplular with cars that do not need the VTEC function (Subaru, H23, Nissan)..

The S-AFCII is the one pictured above. It was just released in the last 3-4 months... and is still quite rare...and expenisve.. Differences other than the outward appearance are fuel mapping at 250 rpm increments (as opposed to 500 rpm increments), a datalogger that retains numbers (Max rpm, graphs of run playback, etc.) after you shut off the power, and some sort of anti-theft code (like the stock radio)...

AVC-R is a Turbo controller...

BTW I have an older Apexi- AFC (original) for $150.00 if anyone is interested. I also have a first generation RSM (no G-sensor capabilities) up for sale as well...

shadowz · 04-17-2003, 03:38 AM

Ok I went to a convention a month ago with Apexi reps, a V-afc2 is on its way, the main differences of it are that cars such as Toyotas, Nissans and other vehicles with variable valve timing you will be able to control with V-afc2 but it wont be out till around september they say

khilgers · 04-17-2003, 07:49 AM

^^nice so at least it's nering completion

MugenPoweredLude · 04-17-2003, 07:54 AM

or they can pull a Skunk2 and keep pushing it back....lol

azninside · 04-17-2003, 10:08 PM

interesting....any other benefits other than non-hondas can use their vtec?

NXLude · 04-17-2003, 11:35 PM

i want that safc II, and its not any more money than a VAFC....within 20 bucks...check pole position, they got them cheap and they are way more tunable than a VAFC

pocky · 04-18-2003, 10:33 AM

ok i just called apex'i usa, and they cleared it up for me

the 401-A008 and the 401-A908 are the exact same thing, its just that the A008 is for the japanese market whereas the A908 is for the US. only difference is the documentation (japanese vs english) and probably easier for us to get warranty for the US version.