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Old 10-10-2006, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A really fast prelude???

Alright last night as I was falling asleep this idea came to my mind, and I just want to get it out there, I can't find anything about it on google and I don't know much about engines. So last night I thought, if you could get your hands on an NSX engine, would it be possible to put it in the prelude??? I know it wouldnt perform as well as the NSX since its heavier, but it would be cool to have inside and definitely give you more to work with to have an even faster prelude. Is this possible!??
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with unlimited finances and a STRONG knowledge of all things automotive, it's possible; One guy built a mid-engined integra, and another has built a FE-RWD 'lude, even keeping the H22.

But realistically? no.

my dream has always been an s2k drivetrain on a 'lude.
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would be absolutely no point in doing that even if you could, what it would cost would be 30times an insane motor build and turbo set up that could get you way more hp then the nsx anyway....
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with unlimited finances and a STRONG knowledge of all things automotive, it's possible; One guy built a mid-engined integra, and another has built a FE-RWD 'lude, even keeping the H22.

But realistically? no.

my dream has always been an s2k drivetrain on a 'lude.
My opinion is if you're asking the question then its no, if you have the knowledge on how to do it you're not asking the question.
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PURELY SPEAKING- I'd like to take a J series (V6) from the Accord Odyssey or Acura CL, mainly a 3.5 from an Odyssey-just the bottom end and then mate a set of Accord Heads on it-which should be a stright swap. I'd choose the Accord heads over the CL because the exhaust on the accord looks like it will take a turbo setup reallly nicely...now with all this weight in the front its not a good idea to keep this FWD so transmissions become a problem-but being as money isn't an object is this situation you might as well cut up the trunk place the engine there use an Acura CL transmission-type S that is to make your BB6 a BB66-sick with a V6, Six speed mid engine RWD. Hell I think you'd be able to take the higher compression pistions out of the CL and use them in the Odyssey, but you wouldn't want that if your going turbo. and if you weren't going turbo you probably just use a CL engine,trans, and heads being as the heads in the type S have way better cams but I'd still opt for the 3.5L displacement over the 3.2. Now that you've shelled out the trunk and have your engine mounted. you'll need a Fuel cell to in the front, but of course you'll need to turn your old engine bay into a trunk so you have a place for the spare tire on this beast. There will be no road side service for you after all you've already voided the warrenty by cutting the piss out of your unibody structure. Other major hurtles would be sufficent cooling and wiring. I don't think any of the cars share the same wiring as your prelude...I have to admit I gave this alot of thought too....I have a J series laying around, a 3.5 too. haha!
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My opinion is if you're asking the question then its no, if you have the knowledge on how to do it you're not asking the question.
if only most honda-tech ppl knew this

now i'm not advocating asking NO questions. but if you could just run thru basic logic, well you might have had the answer to the original question a long time ago.

so you want more hp? type s engine swap. might cost you a good 4-5k plus the install (you should be able to do it yourself)

are you willing to pay $$$ for that little bit better amount of hp?

most ppl will say no (or else every prelude on here would have a type s swap)

now figure thats a direct fit (pretty much). an nsx engine is in the wrong place, probably more $$$, and everything would have to be custom.

so yeah, buy an nsx after its all said and done
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just looking at the numbers- the 3.2 out of a CL makes about 260 so bumping it a tad for the displacement should give a modest 10 ponies or more, no? If you did go turbo-you could go twin turbo....
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My opinion is if you're asking the question then its no, if you have the knowledge on how to do it you're not asking the question.

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so yeah, buy an nsx after its all said and done
This would be much more cost effective route.
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My opinion is if you're asking the question then its no, if you have the knowledge on how to do it you're not asking the question.
well i obviously can't do it, and i'm not interested in it because i have no money. it was just a thought and i wanted to entertain my mind with images of a v6 24 valve dohc vtec in a prelude.
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Hmmm....I bet that'd be a magazine cover car if you could figure it out.
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Someone is trying to swap a 2JZ into a 350z. Anything can be done with the knowledge and a ****-ton of $$$.
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^ blklude98 was telling me someone swapped an rx8 engine into a 350z
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Alright last night as I was falling asleep this idea came to my mind, and I just want to get it out there, I can't find anything about it on google and I don't know much about engines. So last night I thought, if you could get your hands on an NSX engine, would it be possible to put it in the prelude??? I know it wouldnt perform as well as the NSX since its heavier, but it would be cool to have inside and definitely give you more to work with to have an even faster prelude. Is this possible!??
Yes, it can be done

I have seen a 4th gen running an LS2 v8 with rear wheel drive!

Have you ever heard of the NRX? CRX with a NSX engine? They put the engine and tranny in the back of the rex and made it mid-ship. It ran around a 12 sec 1/4 mile too.

The problem with all hybrid swaps is the "ease" of installation. The trickier the more expensive
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Id really like to see someone put a 3.0L+ V6 in a Prelude. Seriously, our engine bays are tight enough with the 2.2.

Like others of said, even if you could, the price of doing so would far out way the benefit. You are better of doing either an N/A Build, Turbo, or Supercharge.
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^ blklude98 was telling me someone swapped an rx8 engine into a 350z
...that's not a typo right?
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is an rx-8 engine even any better than a 350z engine? isnt the rx-7 engine better than the rx-8?
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Id really like to see someone put a 3.0L+ V6 in a Prelude. Seriously, our engine bays are tight enough with the 2.2.
The New Honda V6 sits at a 60 degree angle making it pretty compact I'm thinking if it were turned to sit conventionally for a RWD platform(rear main facing the rear wheels), That way the V6 would sit in the sholder room of the h22 as it is installed by the factory. The trouble would be the transmission. The S2k is the only one that is designed to put the power to the rear. Fitment would obviously have to be in the form of a custom flange and an extention of the transmission main shaft to make up for the space between the engine and transmission flange reguardless of weather or not us use a Honda transmission or not-that is if the engines spin in the same direction.

Its hard to say which way would be easier, putting the engine in the rear, relocating the gas tank and extending the wireing harness making the car mid engine RWD or pulling out the H22 making the V6 fit then tunneling the chassis to allow for the drive shaft and finding a way to mate the transmission to the engine Plus you may have to move the gas tank anyway to allow for the differental that would be in the space that your gas tank in in now. It is a lot of work just looking at the project let alone picking up the wallet and blow torch. I think it'd be better to get an NSX but then again the other half of me would just love to see the look on peoples faces when my normally FWD Prelude did a wheel stand.
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I think it'd be better to get an NSX but then again the other half of me would just love to see the look on peoples faces when my normally FWD Prelude did a wheel stand.
Yes, people would have odd looks on their faces in this fantasy land where you have a Prelude with a Honda V6 doing a wheel stand. Try again.

It would be easier to add a back seat to an S2k & honestly you'd end up with a better product. Don't want a back seat? I'm not sure why you would want to make a Prelude RWD then. The s2k is a better platform.

I've considered the 3.5L V6 with engine work in place of the F2xC in an S2k. One thing you will never make up for with that motor is displacement.

Or, take a domestic V8 block with the same bore spacing as the F20C and build a DOHC VTEC Honda V8 (as long as we are in fantasy land).
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