You don't need the bottom hole, just let it run to the front of the seat. It's not going to be functional that way, but the 5th belt will keep the lap belt from riding up.
Sabelt and Sparco are good brands. I use Teamtech. They are a small company, but I believe they have some of the best harnesses ever made. Not cheap, but excellent quality.
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Billy - 98 Prelude
#27 H2 NASA TX HondaChallenge
#27 PTB NASA TX Performance Touring Racing makes heroin addiction seem like a vague wish for something salty. -- Peter Egan
David, I want to caution you against getting racing harnesses without a roll bar/cage. In the event of a rollover the harness will keep you firmly in place not allowing your body to absorb an impact from above. I am sure someone else can ellaborate on this with a more clear definition of why harnesses are potentially dangerous without other protection like a cage. I have heard this is many earlier threads concerning harnesses.
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If the car rolls, and the roof collapses, a harness will not allow you to duck you head out of the way. A harness holds you in a rigid upright position, and the only way to move is to release the harness.
Usually, for autocrossing, you can use a harness without too much worry. For a track event, I would say it's a definite no-no, or at least, I wouldn't do it.
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Billy - 98 Prelude
#27 H2 NASA TX HondaChallenge
#27 PTB NASA TX Performance Touring Racing makes heroin addiction seem like a vague wish for something salty. -- Peter Egan
Originally posted by 71dsp If the car rolls, and the roof collapses, a harness will not allow you to duck you head out of the way. A harness holds you in a rigid upright position, and the only way to move is to release the harness.
But the 3-point belts will lock when the car flips, so you can'tmove your body either. And you'd have to have a very quick reaction time in order to duck your head as the car is flipping...........
The way I would do it would be to get a 6-point and also keep the factory 3-point, and use the 6-point only during racing (where I also wear a helmet).
But the 3-point belts will lock when the car flips, so you can'tmove your body either. And you'd have to have a very quick reaction time in order to duck your head as the car is flipping...........
The way I would do it would be to get a 6-point and also keep the factory 3-point, and use the 6-point only during racing (where I also wear a helmet).
Can't you move sideways with the 3 point regardless of whether or not it locks?
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Mr. Barky Von Schnauzer?
Mr. Barky Von Schnauzer!!!
Yes, you can still move somewhat with a 3 point. You can also move some side-to-side with a 3 point.
With a 5pt. harness, like mine, you are not going to move, no matter how hard you try.
It's something that's no -likely- to happen, but then again, I installed a roll bar hoping I -never- have to use it.
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Billy - 98 Prelude
#27 H2 NASA TX HondaChallenge
#27 PTB NASA TX Performance Touring Racing makes heroin addiction seem like a vague wish for something salty. -- Peter Egan
Yeah. What I would do is keep the 3-point, add a 6-point (but not a 4-point unless it's just for show), and a cage or at least a roll-bar. And only use the 6-point when racing. Besides, I don't think a racing harness is legal to use on the street since it doesn't allow you to move around a bit - but I may be wrong.
If you are just autocrossing, I would get them, and not worry about them. Even if you go to a road racing driving school, I would still use them. However, if you do any type of competitive driving (or even very hard driving) on a road racing track, be very weary of using them.
If you're getting them for street use, I would forget about them.
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Billy - 98 Prelude
#27 H2 NASA TX HondaChallenge
#27 PTB NASA TX Performance Touring Racing makes heroin addiction seem like a vague wish for something salty. -- Peter Egan
The only harness that is street legal (that I know of) is the Schroth Rallye 3 and 4. Both are 4 point harnesses, but the Rallye 3 has a Y-type single rear mount, while the Rallye 4 has two rear mounts. They harness is attached to the seatbelt anchors, so you can retain the stock belts for everyday use and use the harness when ever you please. The rear mount is attached to the C-pillar shoulder belt (for the Rallye 3) or the seat belt anchors on the rear seat (Rallye 4).
BTW, I only use the Rallye 3 for autoX. It's pointless to use it on the street, because once you're strapped in, it's so tight that it's quite uncomfortable, not to mention you can't even reach the dash controls. If you're planning on doing open-track events, you should really get a roll bar/cage if you plan on using a harness.
Originally posted by 71dsp If the car rolls, and the roof collapses, a harness will not allow you to duck you head out of the way. A harness holds you in a rigid upright position, and the only way to move is to release the harness.
Usually, for autocrossing, you can use a harness without too much worry. For a track event, I would say it's a definite no-no, or at least, I wouldn't do it.
Damn that is true...Thanks for the info.
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