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Old 06-28-2004, 08:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Met with an ARP Representative

This weekend was spent at the Craftsman Nationals in St. Louis. Well the whole weekend was kind of a blur so I'll tell that story later.

Friday night I noticed an ARP booth and asked about custom studs being made and talked to the guy for awhile. Saturday I came back to him with the two different valve cover studs.

First they took me into their trailer. Holy crap, they have a machine shop inside there. First you see all these heavy duty machines and then parts of the drag cars there. I got a few pictures of this. The supercharger rotors that those guys use are enormous. After being in awe over this, he takes the two studs and starts writing down all this information for them. Should have ARP valve cover studs within the month. That was basically it. He's got my information and said it should be ready between a week to a month.
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No offense, but why would we need valve cover studs from ARP?
Is there something wrong with oem ones?

Although it is neat as hell that they started taking measurements to design a product right off the bat.
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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They break easily. One of mine has broke.

I hear its because of the chrome coating that makes them weaker.
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Yeah, I've gone through two sets of them and at 70 bucks a set it adds up on stupid ****. Those valve cover studs have cost me not only in that cost, but also added costs from other stuff breaking as a result of the crappy honda bolts.

Problem caused by valve cover studs...
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The studs aren't chromed. I've never stripped a stud or a bolt when I was using a torque wrench. The one time I tried without a torque wrench, the stud stripped. Use a torque wrench, and I doubt you'll have any problems.
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I hear its because of the chrome coating that makes them weaker.
Forget what you heard.
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^^^ I agree with Ray and the problem is closer to what Billy said.
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I had my valve cover off today, as I was installing a GE cam seal.
Other than the bolts on the plug cover, there is NOTHING chromed in the top end of the engine, unless you left some sockets in there.

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You wouldn't want valve cover studs stronger than what they are . . . . The studs are designed to break before the head does.
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Forget what you heard.
Didn't think so. I hate being misinformed. I heard that on PO too.
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I may make an ass of myself here...but how and the hell would a head "break" ?


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I may make an ass of myself here...but how and the hell would a head "break" ?


You could strip or crack the casting making a bad problem worse.
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You guys actually spend time torquing down ure valve cover to spec!?



Good and snug is all you need...
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He means strip the holes in the head.

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Keep telling yourself that until you strip a bolt. The torque specs are to insure that you don't overtighten a bolt and to ensure that everything is tightened evenly.

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If you do it by hand, you know where to stop. It's not that hard......

And I have seen enough people snap small studs like those using clicker wrenches; I'll do it the trusty old-fashioned way.....
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And I have seen enough people snap small studs like those using clicker wrenches;
If that's the case the wrench was probably out of spec and needs to be recalibrated.
Torque wrenches need to be adjusted every once in a while, especially if used extensively.
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^^^ those are head studs. Not valve cover studs.
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If that's the case the wrench was probably out of spec and needs to be recalibrated.
Torque wrenches need to be adjusted every once in a while, especially if used extensively.
I actually think it was because they approached the torque setting too slow......don't you have to tighten the bolt on a clicker wrench kinda fast, or it will overtighten?
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