ludestarbai

Guys,

I just obtained a new Energy Suspension Master Bushing kit.

I've got access to a 20 ton shop press, a few DIY's and my helms manual assisting me and I will be attempting to install it all this weekend.

The car has 157k miles on it, while I have it all apart I was considering redoing all of the lower ball joints, the outter tie rods, and the upper ball joints... I was considering doing the camber kit style upper ball joints if I can find em'.

What else should I consider replacing while everything is apart?

The CV Joints are new, I was considering doing the wheel bearings but they dont seem to be in any trouble and they're not exactly cheap.

Any suggestions on what else I should do while stuff is all apart would be really appreciated... also any tips on getting the job done if you've got any would be nice.

I hear a lotta people burn their old bushings out but with access to a press this shouldn't be a problem...

Thanks fellahs!

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petern101

The only thing I ever heard were these bushings really weren't that great and would rot out soon.

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rhangman

Never heard of them rotting. Should last longer than rubber I would have thought?

I hear that they can squeak quite bad after awhile when the grease goes. The black graphite ones should be better in this regard than the red ones.

ludestarbai

I've got the ones that are supposed to be infused with whatever that helps with squeeking over time.

Thats neither here nor there though because I already have them... question is, what else should I do while everything else is apart?

I plan on dropping the ground control coilvers to the lowest or closest to low as possible...

probably about a 2.5"-3" drop I'd say...

how necessary do you guys think a camber kit will be? -- if necessary which would you guys suggest for the car?

ball joint type? the LCA type?

What do you guys suggest? what brand? where to buy?

Also i'm kinda considering doing the wheel bearings at the same time now just since **** is apart.... I'm thinking timken since I've heard good things about them in the past... any suggestions on where to buy those?

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Artifex

Wheel bearings are a b*tch. Don't do them unless you have to.

Personally, I would avoid running poly bushings on a street car. They are high maintenance. Poly needs a lot of synthetic grease to stay quiet & pliable. I really would stick to rubber. If you really want to stiffen things up, you could try & find rubber in a higher durometer than stock.

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ludestarbai

I need to purchase some ball joints for my rear upper... I was considering doing the SPC adjustable but they sell two... one with a higher range of camber adjustment than the other... and i dont know which to get... does anyone have any suggestions?

I've been thinking about : 92-01 Honda Prelude/Vigor SPC Adjustable Balljoint Camber Kit - SPC - Camber Kits - Suspension - Import Auto Performance

to replace the upper ball joints on my front and rear... the problem is I dont know if I should get the "-1.5 - 1.5 degree" ones or the "1.5 - 3.0 degree" ones?

The car is dropped probably about 2" - 2.5" on ground control coils and tokico 5 way adjustables.


I dont think i really need a camber kit style ball joint, but searching a few parts places online it seems like buying just the ball joints by themselves are so expensive I figure I may as well do these adjustable style ones...

so ultimately should I get the ones that range from -1.5 to 1.5 ?? or 1.5 to 3.0 degress?

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Twiggz

I put that kit on my '98 years ago. No squeeks that I can hear. I did use a lot of that grease on every bushing. Might have even over greased them. LOL

One tip I've heard to reduce poly noise, is wrap the sway bar with teflon tape where it's in contact with the bushing. I did that on the lude. no noise at all. I didn't do that on my '68 Pontiac. its squeeky over driveways and speed bumps. it might also be a diferent compond. not the new "anti squeek" ones.

I noticed the ride felt tighter after. The only thing I'm really worried about is I heard they get slop after a while. I havent been under the car to see how they are holding up. But the car still handles great.

PS I hope you have an SH if its for a 5th gen. They don't make a Base model kit that I know of.
EDIT: NM I just saw the 4th gen in your sig.

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crzy4ahonda

well considering your going to thoses lenghts i would get a new tanabe sway bar and energy motor mount inserts. and id replace the wheel bearings and tie rod ends...... hell just do a full suspension over haul lmao.