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Old 06-30-2003, 09:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How To: Replace an Oxygen (O2) Sensor

I decided to replace my primary O2 sensor, first in an attempt to cure my ever-frustrating low-rpm hesitation problem (more on that later), and second in an attempt to reduce fuel/oil consumption, and maybe get an improvement in power & driveability. I never got a CEL indicating it as malfunctioning, but it’s widely speculated that the tolerances for O2 sensor performance by the Honda ECU are quite low. Since the primary (upstream) O2 sensor on our car is solely responsible for changes in the short term & long term fuel trim, as well as the closed-loop situations that we drive in 99% of the time, I figured replacing mine after almost 100,000 miles would be a good idea.

The procedure is really very easy, but I figured if there’s a how-to on changing your oil, this might be of use to someone. On a 1 to 10 scale of difficulty (ranging from an oil change to engine swap), I rate this job a 2, only for the small amount of wire splicing needed. If you splurge for the more expensive application specific sensor w/ the harness all ready, this job is a 1. I estimate an hour & a half of work from start to finish, taking your time.

And of course, all the standard disclaimers apply . . . . information is not guaranteed to be accurate, do this at your own risk, I’m not to be held responsible if you die trying to do this, blah, blah, blah.

Parts needed:
-Universal 4-wire Walker O2 sensor kit from www.oxygensensors.com ($59 shipped)

Tools needed:
-jack, jack stands, & blocks; or ramps & blocks.
-22mm O2 sensor socket(s) – I rented this set from Autozone for a $15 deposit.
-various wire splicing & soldering tools
-breaker bar & ratchet
-torque wrench (not required, but recommended)

Original sensor removal:
Once you get the front end in the air (using all standard safety precautions, of course), crawl underneath and you’ll see your target just in front of the catalytic converter.

Go ahead & detach the wiring harness for the primary sensor (the blue one), and unclip the wires from the little hook holding it.

Given the mileage on my car and the fact that it’s been daily-driven through no less than 7 (probably 8) New Hampshire winters, I didn’t fool around & had my trusty 24� breaker bar on hand with the O2 socket set. I’m glad I did, because even with all that leverage, it took some maneuvering to get enough torque on it to break it free. I used the deep socket from the kit on the original sensor. Once it was loosened a couple turns with the breaker bar I swapped to a standard ratchet to crank it the rest of the way out.

Here’s some pictures and side by side comparisons of the old sensor vs. the new. A pretty impressive amount of carbon & crud built up on the original NTK one.

Wiring the new sensor:
The universal kit from www.oxygensensors.com is really nice. It comes with surprisingly comprehensive directions & all the crimp connectors & shrink tubing you need.

From here you have to figure out what wires match up with eachother. I found the page with the Honda/Acura harness diagram to not be very useful – it didn’t match the original NTK sensor. But looking at the first page of the instructions (also linked a couple posts down) I was able to figure out what wires matched up with eachother (basically, a universal type “A� harness matching to a universal type “B� harness). There’s 2 heating wires of the same color, one wire for the ground, and one wire for the signal. A little common sense & some time spent double-checking yourself, and you shouldn’t have any problems figuring it out.

Make sure to get the shrink-tubing on the wires before you start crimping & soldering. And make your cut so you’ve got an extra 3-5� of length to play with. It would pretty much suck for it to end up being too short.

Here’s a few pics of the re-wiring process. The instructions recommend a “stagger� splicing, so that all the splices aren’t at the same point in the harness – probably for strength purposes.

No DIY project is complete without a minor screw-up, and this was mine – I forgot to fit the protective wire loom onto the harness before I soldered it up. So with a couple lengthwise cuts and some electrical tape, I managed to get it on fairly well.

Reinstallation:
This is a no-brainer, just put it back in the way it came out. The O2 kit comes with some high-temp anti-seize stuff, make sure to get that on the threads before it goes in if you want to have some chance of ever getting it out again. I wasn’t able to use the same deep socket on the Walker sensor as I was on the NTK, as the new one was a little bit longer. But the kit had another socket that worked – not as convenient, but it worked. Torque it down to 35 ft/lbs. If you don’t have a torque wrench, it’s not the end of the world – you should be okay just tightening it a firm but reasonable amount. With a standard 7 or 8 inch ratchet, you’ll need a fair amount of force to get to 35 ft/lbs.

Then just reattach the wiring harness, and clip it up out of the way. Here’s your final result . . . .

Impressions:
I know subjective impressions on jobs like this are practically worthless, but bottom line, the car feels better. Smoother throttle response, and perhaps some more power. Slightly more concrete evidence of improvement is that the amount of black smoke coming out the tailpipe on hard redlining runs has been greatly reduced (i.e. it's no longer mistaken for a diesel). So hopefully that means it isn’t running as rich as it was before at WOT, which should mean more power & better fuel consumption.

On the tank before the replacement, I got just over 21 mpg, which was all “city� driving in some stupidly hot/humid weather (95+, 75%+ humidity). But my “city� driving is commuting back & forth to work, 4 or 5 stoplights over a 7 mile stretch, ranging from 30-45 mph.

With the new sensor, I just got 28.5 mpg on a 99% highway trip. A/C running full time, and the cruise control set @ 73 for 90% of the trip. The other 10% was pretty hard VTEC’ing, 90+ mph squirts, hard on-ramps, Boston traffic, etc. I’ll let you all know in a week or so how the mileage compares now that I’m back to my standard commute.

I‘ll also see if oil consumption improves, although I doubt it.

As far as the hesitation, it hasn’t happened since I put the new sensor in (about 500 miles). Note that I’m NOT saying it’s been cured. The jury will be out for at least another month before I allow myself to believe it’s gone . . . . it’s gone AWOL before, only to return with a vengeance. Just a quick run-down, though – 100% stock engine, all regular maintenance is up to date, only does it on part-throttle, low-rpm situations, and it basically feels like I’ve gotten off the throttle for a second or two when I really have not. A passenger would never be able to tell it’s happening, and a mechanic would never be able to recreate it - it’s fairly subtle if you're not familiar with the car. And it happens very unpredictably – maybe 1 out of 10 times. In my efforts to pin it down, I’ve already replaced all the ignition components, fuel filter, TPS sensor, & MAP sensor.

Anyway, hope this helps someone, I’ll update this as there are developments in the mpg & hesitation departments.
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Old 06-30-2003, 09:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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nice write up.. cant wait fo rthe pics
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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great write up
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Old 06-30-2003, 04:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Heres a pic for the instalation instructions



You can find this under the walker o2 sensor information.


Heres a link to the larger origonal. Instructions

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Perfect Timing! I was just looking at replacing my secondary, but after reading yours...maybe I'll do both for that price... can't wait for the pics!
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Pictures are up now. I think I checked them all, but let me know if any are broken. And sorry about the quality on a couple. It was getting dark for some, and my camera isn't that spectacular to begin with.
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Old 07-01-2003, 02:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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nice write up, very helpful. I am currently experience the CEL code #61 and I may have to replace my O2 sensor, but at least I know how to now. Thanks again
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Some updates . . . .

MPG: Like I mentioned earlier, the first tank after I changed the sensor came to 28.5mpg, a 90/10 highway/city split.

The second tank came to a lowly 18.5mpg - it was entirely city, LOTS of stop & go, hard on-ramp acceleration, & LOTS of low-rpm launching (trying to induce the hesitation) . . . Save for track usage, it was probably the worst conditions I could manage for fuel-efficiency, so I'm not surprised at the results.

My latest tank came to 28.2mpg, which was an 70/30 split of highway/city. All of the above figures were with the A/C on full-time.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the latest tank - it's a solid 3-4 mpg higher than I expected. So it seems that I am getting better fuel efficiency with the new sensor. Yay.

Hesitation: Still hasn't happened since the new sensor went in (cross fingers, knock on wood, pray to god, etc., etc.). I'm still not prepared to tell anyone it's been cured, but it's been about 1,000 miles & a week & a half since the last occurence, so I'm optimistic. This might have been it for me . . . .

And just curious - is there anything this thread is missing to become FAQ worthy?
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Just some quick mpg cost analysis . . . .

If I now average an extra 3 mpg, at a price of $1.61 per gallon of gas this mod will pay for itself ($59) in 8,550.7 miles. Not too shabby . . .
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is this also for 1992 Prelude S?
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is this also for 1992 Prelude S?
Basically, yes. You'll only have the 1 primary sensor before the catalytic converter, and the wiring harness may differ slightly, but otherwise . . . .
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I went ahead and ordered the walker universal O2 sensor off www.oxygensensors.com and will recieve it tomorrow.
how to I know what the "Signal to the Computer " and "ground" wires are on the old connector? maybe I'm overlooking something


also

Why the hell isnt this FAQ'ed? this is one of the best write-ups I've seen with great pictures as well
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it came in the mail today wooo

only problem i see is how i will put the right wires with the connector wires
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You should be able to figure it out with the instructions they provide.
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What's a good soldering kit to purchase for this type of exercise? I have been unable to do any electrical work as I do not have a good starter kit, though I have plenty of sockets.

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is there a way to just clean the original senor?
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is there a way to just clean the original senor?
Maybe, probably.. who knows. I do know, though, that O2 sensors are rather fickle and sensitive devices and I'm sure if you tried to clean it somehow you'd end up just f'in the thing up anyway. Better off to get a new one in the first place and not worry about it.
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I've never really read any positive results from people who tried to clean theirs . . . . I suppose it could be worth trying, just use some brake or carb cleaner or something. If it doesn't help, it won't really cost you anything. But given the mileage on mine, I didn't bother.

Still no problems with my new one, by the way. Just passed 103,000 miles, and the hesitation still has yet to occur.
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What's a good soldering kit to purchase for this type of exercise? I have been unable to do any electrical work as I do not have a good starter kit, though I have plenty of sockets.
I just have a really cheap iron from Radio Shack or something, and a small spool of solder to go with it. It was probably the cheapest one they had. But you don't need anything fancy at all for this, and the sensor kit comes with the crimp connectors & shrink wrap tubing that you need.
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Do you have to splice the wires, if you arn't getting the universal sensor?
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Re: How To: Replace an Oxygen (O2) Sensor

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On a 1 to 10 scale of difficulty (ranging from an oil change to engine swap), I rate this job a 2, only for the small amount of wire splicing needed. If you splurge for the more expensive application specific sensor w/ the harness all ready, this job is a 1.
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Sorry, thanks!!!
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NICE write-up. If I fail DEQ (Smog) again I'm gonna try this as well. Wouldn't hurt eh?
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I have a CEL 61 - primary o2 sensor slow response, so this write up should come in handy .
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I just replaced mine this afternoon with the universal kit and it really was pretty easy. My OEM sensors had alread been removed when I had my cat and headers put in so they weren't that hard to remove this time.

The only thing that sucks was the diagram. It wasn't very clearly written and you had to take some time thinking about it to make sure all the wires went to the right place. I am assuming I did it ccorrectly because the car runs and I don't get a CEL.

I cannot comment on gas mileage yet, but the car runs very smoothly. It does seem to pull harder now and it idles like a dream. This is CERTAINLY better than paying $189 for an OEM sensor.
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