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Old 08-16-2001, 05:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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corner weights

i relocated my battery today using the Taylor relocation kit available from Jegs... right now it's at the rear right, but does anyone know corner weights for the 5th gen? specifically SH?
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Well I can't answere your question, but can you answere mine?.... why did you relocate your battery?
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Old 08-16-2001, 09:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I can't answere your question, but can you answere mine?.... why did you relocate your battery?
better weight distribution. the battery is very heavy and us FFer's don't want it in the front.
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better weight distribution. the battery is very heavy and us FFer's don't want it in the front.
Well I figured it might help with handling, but as far as straight line racing is involved.. moving front weight to the rear is a bad thing.
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yes for weight dist... but mainly to make room for turbo.
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Turbo.........

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yea the battery is definitely very heavy. I swear it felt like 40 lbs when I took mine out.
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yea the battery is definitely very heavy. I swear it felt like 40 lbs when I took mine out.
wow, so how do you drive without a battery?
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wow, so how do you drive without a battery?
my car sat in the garage for about 4 months untouched while I was down in LA so I took it out to charge it completely. Damn thing was heavier than I thought
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my car sat in the garage for about 4 months untouched while I was down in LA so I took it out to charge it completely. Damn thing was heavier than I thought
haha just on a side note, the person i bought my car from (college chick) had the wrong size battery hooked up. it looked like a weedwhacker battery, way too small for the car. also i believe the ORIGINAL spark plugs were in there before i got around to getting a tuneup. thats almost 90k miles on the factory sparkplugs...
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I don't know what stock Prelude's corner weight is, but I did corner weight my car last month. Here's the result:

98 Prelude SH equiped with TEIN HA (stiffer rear springs, 12kg/mm front, 10kg/mm rear), dropped about 2" with spare tire and jack out of the car and me (about 180 lbs.) sitting on the driver seat.

LF: 1040 lbs
RF: 971 lbs
LR: 625 lbs
RR: 570 lbs

also I did the alignment after that too,

LF: -2.0 deg
RF: -2.2 deg
LR: -2.0 deg
RR: -1.8 deg
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Is that before or after adjustment? Those cross weights are really good! LF to RR is 1610, or 50.22% and RF to LR is 1596 or 49.78%. I am sure the car handles very nicely with those cross weights. Your L-R bias is a bit worse at 51.93% left and 48.07% right, but still very close. Not bad at all. I would suspect that your car turns left better than it turns right (as most cars with LHD do). Your cross weights should help that, though. Your F-R bias is typical of a FWD; 62.73% front and 37.27% rear.

Still, those are good numbers! How does the car handle?
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What about my numbers Billy ? I corner weighted my car yesterday.

98 Prelude base equiped with kyb agx + skunkworks coilovers (500R/400F), dropped about 2" with spare tire and jack IN the car and me (about 160 lbs.) sitting on the driver seat :

LF : 989
RF : 916
LR : 596
RR : 552
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Is that before or after adjustment? Those cross weights are really good! LF to RR is 1610, or 50.22% and RF to LR is 1596 or 49.78%. I am sure the car handles very nicely with those cross weights. Your L-R bias is a bit worse at 51.93% left and 48.07% right, but still very close. Not bad at all. I would suspect that your car turns left better than it turns right (as most cars with LHD do). Your cross weights should help that, though. Your F-R bias is typical of a FWD; 62.73% front and 37.27% rear.

Still, those are good numbers! How does the car handle?
Those numbers are after adjustment. It was done at my friend's shop (Progress Springs, he's one of the owners there). Unfortunately, I got there close to their closing time, otherwise I would've done it myself and tried to balance both cross weights and L/R weights. But I don't know if he would let me though since his shop is very busy. Anyway, yeah the car handles pretty nicely now and it does turn better on left turns than right turns. On left turns, the car's handling is pretty neutral with a slight oversteer. On the other hand, the car is a bit toward the understeer side when it turns right.
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What about my numbers Billy ? I corner weighted my car yesterday.

98 Prelude base equiped with kyb agx + skunkworks coilovers (500R/400F), dropped about 2" with spare tire and jack IN the car and me (about 160 lbs.) sitting on the driver seat :

LF : 989
RF : 916
LR : 596
RR : 552
Your cross weights are LF-RR is 1541 lbs. (50.47%) & RF-LR is 1512 lbs. (49.53%). That's very good. The L-R bias is left 1585 (51.92%) right 1468 (48.08%). Very similar to my car. And your front is 62.40% and rear is 37.60%. Again, your weights (percentage) are very similar to my car, almost identical. But the weight of your car is about 150 lbs lighter than my car, typical for a base compare to a SH.
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You're going to have a hard time adjust L-R bias, unless you move stuff around. Adjusting ride height isn't going to do it. Besides cross weights are more important. If you have more time, you should be able to screw around with those more and get an even split. How is the ride height all the way around?
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You're going to have a hard time adjust L-R bias, unless you move stuff around. Adjusting ride height isn't going to do it. Besides cross weights are more important. If you have more time, you should be able to screw around with those more and get an even split. How is the ride height all the way around?
The ride height is ok, here are the numbers (measured from the center of the hub to the top of the arc of the fenderwell.

LF: 12-1/8"
RF: 12-1/16"
LR: 12-3/8"
RR: 12-11/16"

Since these were measured from the center of the hub, I would say that there is a tolerance of +/-1/16".
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I have exactly 24" all around from ground to fender
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What is the stock distance from the center of the hub to the top of arc in the fender well?
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Come on guys. Can someone with a stock suspension Prelude please go out and measure their stock Preludes distance from the middle of the hub to the top of the arch of the finderwell?
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