Canada 2001 Prelude SE vs 2000 Prelude SH - Is the older SH model way faster?
Canada 2001 Prelude SE vs 2000 Prelude SH - Is the older SH model way faster than the current SE? Or just it has ATTS technology and thats it? Its both got 200HP...hmm
In the US theres 2001 SH but here in Canada theres only 2001 SE i dont thinkm that one has the ATTS stuff but is there any other difference between the 2 cars? like differnet gear rations..suspension..weight...torque.. rpm stuff.. etc..?
Originally posted by user604 so this new version has no difference compared to last year's SH?? omg nobody understands me i am so shocked! :|
Actually you don't understand there replies. I have an SE. Some can view it as the SH without Atts and some as the Base with the extra goody's, view it as you wish. Performance output is the same. Gearing torque and HP. SE and SH has the same suspension. I have verified this. Now if the lighter weight of the SE due to no ATTS helps in a straight line you be the judge. SE Carbon fiber with leather is sweet. I believe the last year of the US version SH also came with these options. Not sure.
i think sh's are slower by a little margin.They add about 50lb's of weight and their driveline is less efficient.Im pretty sure of this because sh's have a slightly more aggressive cam profile.Se's are preludes with leather,and some other options i believe.Arent all honda se's like that?In my opinion the base ludes will be quicker,but it all comes down to the most important thing,the driver.
Quicker how? Striaght line performance, or a road track? The SH will be slightly slower than an SE in a straight line, but will make up for it and more on a road coarse. That is assuming stock for stock.
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Originally posted by user604 if i went head to head straight racing between a manual and a sportshift prelude
which one will start up faster and end up faster ?? is it like only 1 second difference
Oh my god.Is that a sarcastic question.Thats almost as stupid as that accord int the prelude swap someone posted.Of course the manual.Only one scond difference???In racing terms thats almost eternity
Originally posted by PatLude The SH normally puts down 10whp less than base. From all the dynoed i've seen. Apparently, it's because of an higher differential power losses.
Base, SE and 4thgen VTEC : 160WHP approx.
SH : 150 WHP approx.
Also, form all the races I've gone through, the base (or SE) is definitely faster than the SH (on a straight line acceleration, not a track!)
Originally posted by ywwong who cares who is faster in straight line...
hahahah....... evidently alot of people, look at all our old luders who sold there ludes... MALKEN, 99PRELUDE... and many others, I am trying to buy a 300whp MR2 myself!!
It really depends on the individual - you'll get people say that they were born to drive manuals, and others that still can't! But the majority of the people who drive manuals will say it took a couple of weeks before they started to be sure of themselves. I took one course (mainly to appease my brother's insistance before I drove his car) and it was about 60 bucks I think (CDN). But I had practiced on a friends car before. That's really the best way to go is to borrow someone's old POS civic or something to practice on until you understand the mechanics of it all.
As for the reasons - well I enjoy driving and you can't be connected to the car without a clutch IMO. Plus, it means the majority of the people can't drive the car, and theives are less likely to even bother with your car.
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Originally posted by user604 what made u guys want to learn to drive stick shift in the first place??
I've always wanted to learn stick...ever since I was a kid. It would start when my pops would let me change the gears when I was like 6+ then progress to parking it in the garage from our slightly inclined driveway when I was 13, to driving around the block in the middle of the night when my dad came home from work, until I was finally legal to do it properly. I learned on stick, and took my road test on stick...passed with flying colours! It's like a rule in our family, always get a manual transmission when buying a sports car, no ifs ands or buts...+ having my moms laugh at me for buying an automatic is not a pretty sight, I wouldn't hear the end of it. (Like an automatic was an option for me anyway)
P.s. The $1000 you save for getting a 5 spd helps the wallet out a bit too...
omg....first smack your friend for sayign the sh id the fastest.....secondly borrow someone pos stick and learn on that.....third...manual is better than ss, cause more control, and the tranny is more reliable from what i understand....fourth....i almost hung myself from this thread
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Dirty Lude knows. Manual is faster hands down.
(Like an automatic was an option for me anyway)
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