The benefits of a Grounding Kit and Voltage stabilizer?
EDIT: Please ignore that typo in the title
I was wondering if anyone knew the benefits of running a grounding kit like from; HKS, Apexi, and T1R. Also the benefits of a voltage stabilizer.
Will this help a normally aspirated car at all? It seems this may be from upgraded stystems with custom ignitions.
ok here : Ground system:"The T1R Earthing System provides valuable grounding for your vehicle's electrical system. This 4 point grounding system substantially reduces electrical noise in your vehicle, which can intefere with the performance of components such as the ignition, distributor, etc. Consequently, the earthing system helps minimize inefficiency and power loss, allowing the engine to perform optimally. Noticeable effects include smoother power delivery and improved throttle response. Highly recommended for older vehicles and heavily modified engines."
Voltage stabilizer:"The T1R V-Power Voltage Stabilizer regulates the voltage of the car's electrical system, providing constant voltage at all times. Normally the electrical system's voltage will fluctuate under acceleration resulting in power loss and rough power delivery. The Voltage Stabilizer eliminates this voltage fluctuation, providing a constant voltage, thereby smoothening power delivery and optimizing power. Low rpm performance is improved noticeably, with improved response, acceleration, and smoothness. Fuel economy is also improved, especially for city driving conditions. This product also features a ON/OFF switch for safer installations. Avaialble in 4 colours i.e. red, blue , silver & gold."
EDIT: All the companies have about the same description of the benefits
I don't have the link to the old post(s), but its been proven that these do nothing on newer cars - might help some of the 1980s imports that had poorly designed grounding systems to start with. Complete waste of $100 unless your current ground wires are corroded/damaged.
Well this is wut i wonder.
The second item is a voltage stabilizer, meaning it provides a constant voltage for the entire electrical system of the vehicle. Now if you have a sound system, and a voltmeter, u can actually c the volts drop each time the bass hits (unless u have a good cap but even still there is a drop). Questions is, how does the voltage stabilizer account for the significant fluctuations caused by sound systems???
from what i've seen on most of those "voltage stabilizer" systems, it's essentialy a capacitor for the entire electrical system...
i haven't seen the internals of one, but by looking at how they're wired in to the car's electrical system, they sit on the positive cable between the battery and everything else...
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"The benefits of a Gorunding Kit and Voltage stabilizer?"
not that this has anything to do with the thread...it has been found that as long as the first and last letter are correct, most of the words in the english language can be easily read, even if the middle letters are switched around.
being an electrical engineer... the grounding system is pretty useless as our car has quite a few grounding points already. Best thing you can do is to go through all the stock grounding points, clean them up and tighten them back to spec. You can also add a few more grounding points yourself, however you wouldnt feel the difference at all.
As for the voltage stabilizing, might be worth the money if you are running a large system, as the capacitor will charge and absorb the voltage spikes, keeping the voltage running at 1 stable value. However, who knows how good of a capacitor these things use, could very well blow up (ive seen capacitors blow up, they can fire like gunshots, its quite funny). Id rather calculate my own value of capacitor to use on my system, and place it in the T1-R box.
All in all, unless you have a car with 200k+ miles, dont worry about your electrical system, its pretty good from factory
Just to add an FYI, there are some late-model cars with crappy grounding systems. I own a WRX, and almost all Subie grounding systems suck ass. There are some great smoothness improvements by re-doing the grounds.
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I was playing with a small scale "voltage stabilizer" this past week.
The one I was mucking with was basically a combo of a charge pump and voltage regulator in one. For my particular case, there was a default output of one voltage no matter what the input. This could change with the addition of a feedback circuit to a different scalable output.
But the gist of it was, if the input to the system was lower than the defined output, it would suck more current and bump it up. And if the voltage was higher than defined, it would regulate it down.
The point is this: On cars, if you are limited on your juice, sucking more juice to bounce it back up with an active component (not passive like a cap) will NOT help.
Why not just measure the noise in your car's electrical system first. Just hook up an oscilloscope to the negative battery terminal and to any place in your car to see what kind of noise or average voltage variations you get.
There is a bit of noise on the power (12v) line in my car, but that is OK with me because my GTech uses it to measure RPMs. The noise was a problem for my bullet cam and mic preamp so I put in a simple LC filter for that line.
"The benefits of a Gorunding Kit and Voltage stabilizer?"
not that this has anything to do with the thread...it has been found that as long as the first and last letter are correct, most of the words in the english language can be easily read, even if the middle letters are switched around.
o yea, i remember that. there was a whole statement written that way and it could be read very easily. it was in a email or website or somethin. something about columbia university and that we read words by wholes, not letter by letter
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... So are these grounding kits suppose to provide better 'breathing' for the voltage that travels through the car's chassis or what?
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