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Old 01-11-2005, 07:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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5speed: Can't shift into reverse after a few highway runs.

Welp... at least the self-repair wasn't the other way around, instead of a self-phuckup.
I think i'll change my tran fluid if i get the car back.
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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5speed: Can't shift into reverse after a few highway runs.

So after a few friendly highway runs with some local mustangs, rx7s and evo...

We headed back into town, didn't notice any problems with the transmission. syncros smoothly doing their job in gears 1-5

However, after we were leaving the parking lot we met up in after the fun, it wont shift past halfway into reverse, only to grind the gear if force is applied and the clutch is let out. I tried several times after moving the shifter into various gears and moving the car forewards and backwards (mabey a differnt spot in the gear would work) but no luck.

Opend the hood and the linkage ends are fastend properly with cotter pins to the Xmission.

Any ideas as to why about 5 40-110 mph runs on the highway would effect revers and not any other gears? Could excessive heat play a factor?

Anyone with similar problem / any knowledge greatly appreciated!
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hmm, maybe your reverse gear thinks street racing is retarded and is protesting...

reverse doesn't have a synchro so it's not a synchro issue. the clutch is working since you have the rest of your gearbox. have you tried putting the car in reverse with the engine off? does it physically go into gear when the engine's dead or is it just as hard then?

if it goes in easily with the engine off, i'm guessing it's something with the idler gear. if it doesn't i would think it's a shift fork, or something in the shift-linkage.

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Old 04-09-2005, 11:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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try changing your tranny fluid. I've noticed when I've neglected it in the past, it gets tough to put it into gear.
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hmm, maybe your reverse gear thinks street racing is retarded and is protesting...

reverse doesn't have a synchro so it's not a synchro issue. the clutch is working since you have the rest of your gearbox. have you tried putting the car in reverse with the engine off? does it physically go into gear when the engine's dead or is it just as hard then?

if it goes in easily with the engine off, i'm guessing it's something with the idler gear. if it doesn't i would think it's a shift fork, or something in the shift-linkage.
Just tried to shift into revers with the car off several times, and still its a no go.

WHY on earth would reverse be affected by spirited use of gears 2-4???
is it the same shift fork for reverse as those gears??


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Like asked previously, when was the last time you changed your tranny fluid, if at all?
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less than 1 year ago...10k miles...ill check the Xmission fluid tomarow morning... thx
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I thought reverse did have a syncro, or it was affiliated with the 5th gear syncro. About 2 years back I had the same problem. Car would not shift into reverse...drove it to honda (making sure I didnt put myself in a situation I would need reverse ) and they said the reverse/5th gear syncro's were bad...luckily my car was under warranty because the price tag for repair was hefty.
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interesting.

But my guess would be that reverse does not have a syncro. Reason, you have to be at a dead stop for it to go into gear...if it had a syncro cone, then you could be moving and shift to the reverse straight cut gear

will top it off with tranz lube in the morning... and post status.
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If it is hard to get into reverse, and nothing is wrong with the linkage, your 5th/reverse shift fork is bent/bending.
It will get worse if you force it.
Fix it quick and you might get away with just replacing the shift fork.

My car, this started chunking metal everywhere and grenaded things. Honda replaced the whole transmission under warranty.
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If it is hard to get into reverse, and nothing is wrong with the linkage, your 5th/reverse shift fork is bent/bending.
It will get worse if you force it.
Fix it quick and you might get away with just replacing the shift fork.

My car, this started chunking metal everywhere and grenaded things. Honda replaced the whole transmission under warranty.
Yea, thats what went wrong with mine, the 5th/reverse shift fork went out, it wasnt any syncro issue, sorry about that. Anyway, mine was fixed under warranty or else it would have been about $2000 parts and labor (This is at the WORST honda dealer I know though, phucking bandits.)
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If it is hard to get into reverse, and nothing is wrong with the linkage, your 5th/reverse shift fork is bent/bending.
It will get worse if you force it.
Fix it quick and you might get away with just replacing the shift fork.

My car, this started chunking metal everywhere and grenaded things. Honda replaced the whole transmission under warranty.
Agree'd after a few shifts @ 80mph from 4th to 5th there is a slight grind.
And when swapping tranny fluid, it was full and color was amber when draining.

So im thinking 5th+Reverse fork.
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Like asked previously, when was the last time you changed your tranny fluid, if at all?
Now that I think about it, if it was low on transmission fluid, 5th gear would be the first to go because it would be starved of lubrication with its smaller size (high above the lube) Not reverse.

So im thinking this remark was intended to make me look like some one to lazy for preventitive maintenance.
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this happened to me 2 times already. over a 1 1/2 years ago after i changed my clutch and flywheel and after 1 day of use i couldnt get into reverse. took it to honda and all they did was force it in and after that it was fine.

3 weeks ago. i did a 70 to 125mph run(yes i know its stupid) and afterwards i couldnt get it into 5th or reverse. but i forced it in and it seems to work fine. after i talked to a few people they said it could be the 5th+Reverse fork.

but i just swapped in the m2b4 transmission sitting in my room instead dealing with it.
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Holy

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WTF

It works now....

Uhhh What the heck guys

Lowfly'n, Me and several other car guys were scratching our heads

after driving on the highway for about 60 miles i get home and try one last time, it shifts smoothly into reverse and no scratching into 5th...

Mabey i bent it back some how???

GGGGHHHEYYY
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So im thinking this remark was intended to make me look like some one to lazy for preventitive maintenance.
Not at all. There was no indication of how many miles your car had on it so I had no idea as to whether you had changed the tranny fluid or not. That is why I worded it the way I did.
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oh, IC

Yea, the frame. chassis has 210,000, however the powertrain, axles, suspention, and other components have around 59k

So its not too old.

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but damn, this has to be the most out of the blue problem that all of a sudden fixed itself
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How about no more highway runs for awhile.
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yea ....prolly just stick to spirited use of 1st 2nd and 3rd for a while.

But if it works perfect i dont see why not though...right?

Honda,,,, i swear
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Mine (Prelude) seems to work fine...


...when it's not on jack stands. :P
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