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Old 06-19-2001, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1997 Honda Prelude HorsePower!!

Hey guys! I'm new here so I just want to know a few things. If your too lazy to tell me then I understand but at least point me in the right direction. I bought a 1997 Honda Prelude SH, it's supposed to be 197HP right? I saved 35 Grand for this car. I spent 12 so far and now I'm going for some of the Performance parts. Can you guys tell me how much HorsePower each part will get me? Is there anyway I can make my Prelude 400HP? Or even more? How do Adjustable Cam Shafts work and how much HorsePower can they get for you? If you write back to me then I'll really apreciate it.. thanks. I'm on 5mbps Cable Internet so if you guys need anything... Just ask me ;-)

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Old 06-19-2001, 02:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ur car has 195 hp

I can't believe you have $23k to spend!!

ummm...you can probably dude anything with that kind of $$$.

or r u saying u have $23k PASOS ?!?!?!??!

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Old 06-19-2001, 02:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, 23,000 DOLLARS!

I'm 17 and I'm from NY. I've worked hard for the money. I know a lot about cars.. I just dont exactly know how much HorsePower I can get out of my Lude. By the way it's Electronic Cobolt Blue of course! I'm going to have pictures of it soon. I want everything for the engine without actually changing the engine itself, ya know what I mean?

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i don't know if i'd build a lude with that kinda cash :/
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what do you want the car to do???

if you want it to be a daily driver it's not going to work very well... not to mention your going to need another car to drive while the lude gets modded...

if you want 400hp out of a lude i assume you want to drag race with it... if this is the case I would suggest buying a Honda HB and putting the 400hp 2.2L in it... the lude is just kinda heavy for Drag... however each to their own...

just some things to think about... but main question is what do you plan on doing w/ it????
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and if I have $20k laying around personally I would by a M3 or a CLK... or better yet put it down on a house w/ a garage to put the lude in....
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and if I have $20k laying around personally I would by a M3 or a CLK... or better yet put it down on a house w/ a garage to put the lude in....
what i would say, but i would put S4 somewherer
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Am I the only one thinking FI? With 20k+ to spend on mods, you could possibly have the fast prelude on earth. I'd start with basic bolt on's and suspension while getting a feel for the car then go for more aggressive mods such as cams and the such. Also, take your time and shop around for ideas, don't do something just because you heard it will make a lot of hp. Happy luding.
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I wouldn't bother. If you have this much cash to spend on a car, then why in the world did you get a Prelude...? There are better ways to go REAL fast.

But if you're hard-set on the Prelude, and you want to get 400hp at the crank, you'd have to go with a big-bore / short-stroke engine modification, a big mother of a cam (ie.: very long duration on the intake, a little less on the exhaust - but not so much that you bleed off the boost), a turbocharger (duh), and an air-to-water intercooler.

Or a 200hp shot of nitrous.

And don't forget 110+ octane race gas.

Or just convert the whole damn thing to run on alcohol!
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But Preludes didn't come in Blue in 97?

What has been done to the car already besides the paint?
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A Lot To Reply To.

Thanks for the Reply's guys. First off I had my 1997 Prelude in black. I think it was Nighthawk Pearl. I love Black but I just wanted it to be Blue. So I stripped the paint and got it painted by a specialized Maaco dealer near me. I do have $23,000 but I didn't say that I HAVE to use all of it. Whatever it takes to get me the best Prelude in the world, that's what I'm willing to spend. I think I should start out with the intake manifold, cold air intake, muffler, and a turbo charger. Secondly, I am planning on using the Prelude for personal passion. (lol) I know I could have bought any other car but it's not as fun as customizing your own Lude (My Opinion). I live in NYC but I'm going to the University Of Buffalo where I have my own appartment and a garage of course. Another thing that might help you guys help me out is that I want my car to be really agressive looking and perform agressively, I want the car to be heard and I want the car to be felt as well. I have already installed my stereo which is totalling a wattage of 2300. I am getting dark blue smoke tinted windows tomorrow. Money is not a problem for me, I chose the Prelude because I want to race with it, drive it, and just sit in it for hours hearing the engine roar. Like I said before, I dont want to change the Engine.

PS - I didn't give 400HP as a specific amount, that was just an example, I want to get my Honda Prelude to be as high in HorsePower as possible without paying more than I should have to.

PSS - TurboCharger, SuperCharger, or Nitrous? I did some research on this but I still can't find out how much HP each will make for my specific Prelude.

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Re: A Lot To Reply To.

My honest opinion..? You have a lot of money, some ideas, but no clear destination. I mean, you have a ton of stereo equipment, AND you want to race with it..? You want it to look agressive AND handle amazingly well...? You're going to run into a LOT of problems. Hard-core performance is expensive, and not street-friendly.

You can get a turbo or a nitrous system to make a LOT of power, but not for very long. Or you can make a decent amount of power for a long time. Weight is evil when racing, so take your stereo and trash it.

Just some advice. Find out what you really want the car to do, but be reasonable. Seriously.
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G'luck getting around in all that snow in buffalo... it ain't gonna be pretty.

If you're going w/ the turbo, then there's no need for a header..
start off w/ a Cold Air Intake (AEM or Iceman) and an exhaust (pick from Mugen, Apex, Greddy, Tanabe, Thermal, Borla). As for the suspension, you can go all out w/ Teins coilovers... or Koni, KYB, Tokico w/ any combination of H&R, Eibach, Tanabe, Ground Control, Skunk springs. Then onto the sway bars and strut bars.

oh man.. this is gonna take too long.. I'll let it absorb first.
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sounds like you have a lot of research to do before jumping in to this. Turbo is the only way to get the power you want just fyi. Do some searches on it again i don't think you looked very hard, theres tons of information around. People have debated the turbo set ups a lot and there are extensive parts lists for what you need.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I always knew weight mattered but does it really matter that much? Maybe I should take the BandPass Subwoofer Enclosure out and the rest of the stereo equipment and put it on my 96 Accord in NYC. Yeah Buffalo is rough but I dont plan on being here too long. I'll be done in like 2 or 3 years and then I'm going back to the City and marrying my girl! WOO HOO! I want my Prelude to last me at least a good 10 years, does that help? I heard Nitrous shortens the engines life. I want to drive my Prelude mostly on the street. It doesn't have to be street legal either, I never liked cops anyway :finger: lol. Anyway, I know it's gonna take me a long time to get my Prelude to the Max but how long do you think it might take me? I'm guessing one or two years minimum, am I right? Agressivism is one of my key terms here, I want my car to literally scare people ****less. I want to drag race it every one in two months or so but I want it so I can beat anyone, and I mean anyone in a street race. Thanks again.

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Performance!

If it helps you guys narrow it down then forget the looks of the car, just concentrate on performance. I already know which kind of Body Kit and Spoiler I'm getting. I'm planning on Buying the APR GT-2 Style Wing and the ViS Racing INVADER Body Kit. What do you think? Phat huh? In the next month or two I will be getting basically ever little thing that I can for the look of the car. Everything from a new Emergency Brake Handle to Blue 5-Point Racing Seats. I still dont know what Rear Valance to get, they all look so "dull", is there any that looks intimidating or agressive? . I did do a lot of research on the 97 Prelude and they say that the FMax turbo kit is good. Dyno Charts show that it gives 300HP. Another Turbocharger is the Drag one, which is rumored to give 350. They say the FMax is the most powerful one but Drag is trusted more. What do you guys know about this?

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I always knew weight mattered but does it really matter that much? I want my Prelude to last me at least a good 10 years, does that help? I want to drive my Prelude mostly on the street. It doesn't have to be street legal either. I want to drag race it every one in two months or so but I want it so I can beat anyone, and I mean anyone in a street race.
Okay - you honestly need to read what you just said. You want a dual-purpose car that can be better than a car built strictly for racing...? Good luck, mate..! Not gonna happen..!

1 - Weight is very evil. Not for top speed, but for handling and acceleration.
2 - High horsepower engines DON'T last 10 years, and neither do race suspensions. Or the chassis that they're bolted to.
3 - "Driven mostly on the street" is NOT what race parts are for. You'll have NO driveability - no idle, bent rims, $100 a week for fuel, etc...
4 - You will NOT be able to beat everyone in a street race. Pull up to a street-legal Porsche 962 and say your prayers.
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A Porsche? Hmm.. didn't think about that. But I can still win if I throw something at him from my car, . You know what? I think I'm going to change my mind about how long I want to keep my Prelude. 10 Years is a lot of time... by then they'll have a newer faster Prelude out and I'll have to buy that. How about I have one car for regular home->work driving and then I have my monster Honda Prelude to woop ass? That better? Can I do that and still make it live for two or three years? I dont want to drag race with it too much. You said something about engines with high HorsePower dont last, why is that?

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Wow u have all that money and another car? U livin large high roller
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Re: The Guy In The Porsche!

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How about I have one car for regular home->work driving and then I have my monster Honda Prelude to woop ass? That better? Can I do that and still make it live for two or three years? I dont want to drag race with it too much. You said something about engines with high HorsePower dont last, why is that?
Exactly how much do you know about engines..? High-horsepower engines generally spin quite fast, have quite high dynamic compression, and use lightweight parts that just don't last. High power is high stress and high heat, which is quick failure.

I think you're pretty well screwed in this quest.
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