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Old 03-08-2006, 12:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Gerhard
Frankly, with one of these installed you do not need a cold intake of any sort.
The big question is, are you talking about a stock/very lightly moddified engine or a moddified engine with increased demands for air.

There are 2 ways an intake could make more power than a stock intake: deliver COLDER air to the engine, deliver MORE air to the engine.

I agree that the stock intake DOES deliver a fairly cool charge already, so a CAI isn't really making it's power from delivering colder air. It makes its power from delivering MORE air to the engine. This is why one CAI can outperform another, since the shape of the bends and the diameter of the piping in key locations determines the amount of air delivered to the engine. This is also why slapping on an AEM CAI is not going to do much of anything for your stock engine, since it doesn't need any more air than the stock intake already delivers. If a CAI really did deliver much colder air than stock, you would actually see a good performance increase on a nearly stock engine, but you don't.

I will agree with you that on a stock engine, switching out the stock intake for a CAI (regardless if the Hondata IM gasket is installed or not) would do very little for you. However, once you've modified the engine to desire more air, the stock intake will absolutely become a bottleneck.

My point was that ON A MODIFIED engine (where the engine desires more air), a cold air intake would have cumulative effects with a hondata gasket. Not because of air temp, but quantity of air. And since the majority of ppl on PO.com have at least a header and exhaust, I believe they would benefit from a CAI in addition to a Hondata IM gasket.

So the question becomes, how many mods does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
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