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Old 07-11-2001, 07:58 AM   #19 (permalink)
Smilez
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Originally posted by Spocko
Actually, for the Fmax 288 run,. they did have an exhaust- it was a Tanabe, but it was not 3". Yeah it was open and 9 psi, but we all know that Fmax leaves something to be desired when it comes to putting together a great turbo kit, and that something is "more HP". My kit should deliver that, especially with my HPC extreme coating on my T housing, manifold(a Kiwi at that), and DP- and then a 3" cat conv. and 3" custom exhaust.

Believe me if they got 288 with that set-up, it will be a crime if I don't see 300. PSI is not the end all in power, there are other important factors in the HP quest when it comes to turbo, and cooling and proper fuel delivery are 2 big ones. Cooling I got down to a science, and after I get my Hondata all hooked up, I'll be looking ahead to bigger and better things in the 400 range(after a bottom end re-working).
I don't think the FMAX kit is that bad. To me it only has 2 glaring issues, the MAP check valve should be something like a missing link, not the cheapo system they have. And the wastegate gasses should merge with the turbo exhaust gasses farther apart, that would help when running closed loop. The latter is currently speculative on my part, I'll be re-running the wastegate exhaust to merge right before the cat, then I will know for sure, but all my research says this is the reason the fmax kit gets +44whp when running open loop.

You can get the housing, downpipe and manifold all HPC'd if you want to spend the money. You can get a ball bearing turbo if you want to spend the money.

The other issues aren't really to blame on FMAX. Yeah, stand alone engine management would be nice, but now your talking about an additional 1-2k. A equal length runner manifold would be nice, but that would cost additional as well, and the kit is already a PITA to install, that would just make it harder. I don't think for the 5-10% gain (speculative of course) when only running 7-9lbs it would make sense for FMAX to do either of these things and charge 5k+ for the kit.

I think if you want a quick 90-100whp, the fmax kit is a pretty good deal, tie that with a J&S Safeguard and a few guages, and you could be out the door for ~5k and have pretty good reliability/performance, spend another ~$300, get the coating, and a missing link and that would be a pretty solid performer.

Also, I would think you should easily see 300whp with your setup. I would think the same for LudeSpeed2000 but he still hasn't said what exhaust he's using, and I think that will make a huge difference in getting above 300 vs right around 300.

-Jeff
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Last edited by Smilez; 07-11-2001 at 08:01 AM.
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