Just so you guy's know.. the rear lower tie bar really does no affect to our cars. If you do a search (which I did a couple months ago). There was at least 1 real thread covering that the rear lower tie bar was just "bling" all show. Which is why I just bought a DC Sports rear lower tie bar. Although I have a front Tanabe lower tie bar, it definately works. As threads in the past said, the front actually helps, but the rear does not, I saw Roger in a few threads, maybe he could chime in on this. Keep the DC Sports, sell the Tanabe